Shamil Salakhetdinov
shamil at users.mns.ru
Thu Jan 19 07:18:04 CST 2006
Hi Jim, And TeamServer uses VSS Server - Yes/No? Shamil ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Lawrence" <accessd at shaw.ca> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 3:11 PM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Source Code Control > Hi Shamil: > > MS uses TeamServer for all their projects. > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Shamil > Salakhetdinov > Sent: January 18, 2006 11:57 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Source Code Control > > > I mean, honestly, it works for a little side project > Josh, > > I guess MS uses VSS by themselves ... > > I did use VSS in a huge MSVC++ project of my colleague with thouzands of > source files and a half of a hundred projects - it worked well, no problems > at all... > > I think most of the "horror stories" about VSS are in the past now. > > Yes, I liked SubVersion for the features you describe and because it's open > source... > > If there is no need in these SubVersion features then VSS looks good enough > and stable. > > Shamil > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Josh McFarlane" <darsant at gmail.com> > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 7:22 AM > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Source Code Control > > > > On 1/17/06, Josh McFarlane <darsant at gmail.com> wrote: > > > I haven't used SourceSafe in Access personally, only C++ projects. I > > > find it interesting that they've worked out code to diff Access DBs, > > > but cannot make it compatible with Word for diffing. > > > > > > Granted, everything can be corrupt, but source-safe has a very very > > > bad track record with corruption, even on simple things. I can't find > > > the link now, but once I hit my work computer I'll post it. > > > > > > When it's all said and done, I still prefer a stability and safety > > > over easy integration with Office / Visual Studio. > > > > OK, looked a little more into this, and supposedly if you run their > > analyze.exe tool at least weekly, it will drastically reduce the > > "fail" corruption rate (as it fixes the small corruptions before they > > propigate). > > > > Some other interesting things that I hadn't heard before: > > > > Large binary files often had to have their version history cleared with > 3.1 > > > > File locks were frequently left behind and had to be manually removed. > > > > Then there's the dreaded \data\a\aaaaaaaa.a error message that > > everyone seems to end up dealing with (For some reason, I swear there > > was a KB article dealing with all the possible ways this could pop up, > > but I can't find it) > > > > Also, if you delete a file, and then later recreate a file with the > > same name, the previous file history is gone forever (You can't check > > out previous complete builds anymore) > > > > I mean, honestly, it works for a little side project, but for anything > > a business is depending on, I don't trust my weight on it when there's > > free open-source products out there that do much much better in terms > > of both reliability and interface. > > > > -- > > Josh McFarlane > > > > "Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." > > -Albert Einstein > > --