John Colby
jwcolby at ColbyConsulting.com
Mon Mar 13 16:47:22 CST 2006
>I haven't asked John to approve this statement but I expect he will agree So true, very serious. ;-) John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Shamil Salakhetdinov Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 1:44 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access XP forms bound to ADO recordsets > Doing unbound in a "header" record (invoice, for instance) is pretty > straightforward, especially when starting with a bound form and then > deleting the record source property Steve, Myself and John are bounders and we are very serious guys ;) I haven't asked John to approve this statement but I expect he will agree - am I right, John? :) So we are talking here about bound forms (and reports) but bound to ADODB recordsets. Just to make it clear what is discussed in this thread - this is a technique partially described here - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/281998. The difference we are talking about is that we are "exploring the waters" of MS Access forms bound to DISCONNECTED ADODB recordsets. The purpose to do that is to have backend DB(s)unlocked (not even touched by MS Access FE) while the extracted data are edited in MS Access form with subform(s) when both form and its subform(s) may have potentially many rows, which we can edit using built-in MS Access features and then post ALL the changes back at once in an ADODB "AUTOMAGIC" BATH UPDATE or in manually prepared batch update in one transaction etc. (There are other implied very useful features as serializing/transmitting/deserializing/storing/.. batch updates, having light-weight MS Access FEs etc. - but all that will make sense to discuss only when the main technique will start to work stable enough to be used in real life applications.) > I had the best device ever created for holding columns and rows of > data: Access' own Tables! True - I did write such code a long ago for MS Access 97, many others did do that - the difference we're talking about is that we wanted to use bound forms but we do not want to be bound to MS Access (local) tables and we wanted to have as little as possible custom coding and if have such coding then rather generic and flexible and scalable. > and also requires home-grown locking (I added a bit field to invoice > to indicate "in use"), Yes, it will need to use something like that of course - and this is always needed for the optimistic locking, e.g. when one is working in fully unbound mode in VB6 or C#/VB.NET/C++.... Shamil