JWColby
jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com
Fri Apr 27 10:05:07 CDT 2007
Shamil, Unfortunately what I have now is the standard version. Until such time as I am actually doing paying work in the package I will not be buying the professional version. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Shamil Salakhetdinov Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 10:53 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Dot Net, where to start? <<< As for reporting, that is a show stopper, especially when you come from Access which is one of the better report generators out there. >>> John, VS2005 Professional has Crystal Reports - when one gets on speed with CR they can make very advanced reports with it - the reports, which can't be done with MS Access. IOW every report, which can be done in MS Access can be done in CR. But the opposite is not true. CR is (much) more powerful than MS Access Report Generator... Well, embedded in VS2005 CR IDE is limited comparing to professional version of CR, still it (VS2005 CR) is good enough to design reports but after MS Access report designer one usually feels that limited CR IDE as RPITA (There is no any functionality of CR engine limited - just IDE). And reports created with CR within VS2005 professional can be distributed with royalty free CR engine, which can be downloaded from Internet... What is also good with CR is that reports created for desktop applications can be relatively easy moved to use from Web Server (CR Server (not free) is needed for that) - there will be no need to do any redesign of these reports and CR Server is "smart" enough and handles large reports in small chunks, which can be quickly downloaded on client computer... -- Shamil -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of JWColby Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 6:30 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Cc: dba-vb at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Dot Net, where to start? Gustav, I am at the same place. I own a copy of VS2005 and SQL Server 2005 (got it at the coming out party) so I can go there if I wish. I have it installed and have played with it quite a bit over the last two years or so. I am actually considering working in the VB.Net express until I come up to speed on that, then make the move to VS2005. The express stuff is free and provides all the functionality that I can understand for the moment anyway. Once I get that down, then I will be ready to learn the stuff that the express versions do not provide. As for reporting, that is a show stopper, especially when you come from Access which is one of the better report generators out there. I am actually considering simply using automation to continue using Access as a report generator for the moment. Again, once I come up to speed on the .Net stuff, then I can re-examine my options. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 10:10 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Dot Net, where to start? Hi all It seems to be the time for me to get into the Dot Net stuff. But where to start? The only books on Access I've ever had are the original references and handbooks for Access 1 and 2 and the Application Development book for Access 97 so I'm reluctant to buy books - I just don't have the patience ... In the Action Pack - which we subscribe to - I've noticed two discs for VS 2005 Express, "Corbis Image Disc" and "Getting Started". Are these tutorials worth the effort to study? I browsed our vb list archive, which I don't subsribe to, and traffic seems to be low, so where to discuss Dot Net matters at the same level as we discuss Access here? One thing I think I've understood is that report design in VS is poor and third party tools or Report Design Service of SQL Server 2005 are to be preferred if you need reports on a level that match that of Access. Of course, my main interest is anything related to databases - pure web development is second, and game development won't come into play. Any advice will be greatly appreciated. /gustav -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com