Gustav Brock
Gustav at cactus.dk
Sun Apr 29 06:32:00 CDT 2007
Hi Arthur Is that so, Arthur? You have 2005 Reporting Services in mind? /gustav >>> shamil at users.mns.ru 27-04-2007 18:15 >>> Hi Gustav, AFAIU Arthur means MS SQL 2000 or 2005 Reporting Services - correct Arthur? The VS2005 IDE designer for report running via these services seems to be available in VS2005 Standard Edition: http://msdn2.microsoft.com/ru-ru/vstudio/aa700921.aspx I'd think Crystal Reports is more powerful (more feature rich I mean) than MS SQL Reporting Services but I must say I just played a little bit with MS SQL 2000 Reporting Services and I have never used this technology in real life development and therefore I can be wrong in what I'm telling here about it (Arthur please correct me) unlike CR, which I used in real life projects and yes, it was RPITA to get on speed with it after MS Access but as I noted already I think CR is more powerful and flexible report designer/engine than MS Access... Of course it all depends on task to be developed - in some cases MS Acecss reporting is all you need. But if you aim at many deployment scenarios of your reporting solutions then CR is one of the best. I have heard (and Charlotte approves that here) that Active Reports is also very good (I did "touch" it one time in the past - and it looked more easy to start with it than with CR but my customer was "CR-infected" therefore I was forced to work with CR)... -- Shamil -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 7:53 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] Dot Net, where to start? Hi Arthur, Shamil, Charlotte and John Now I'm slightly confused. I would prefer to believe in Arthur's words as I like John don't have the VS 2005 Pro version, but I have to listen to Shamil and Charlotte in this matter. For most of the projects I may encounter, reporting will be an important part. Or are we talking about reporting "power" in different directions? /gustav >>> fuller.artful at gmail.com 27-04-2007 16:55 >>> Are you kidding? The report stuff in VS 2005 is killer technology! It blows Access and Crystal and various other contenders out of the water. IMO it is the definitive reporting technology extant. A. On 4/27/07, JWColby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote: > > Gustav, > > I am at the same place. I own a copy of VS2005 and SQL Server 2005 (got it > at the coming out party) so I can go there if I wish. I have it installed > and have played with it quite a bit over the last two years or so. > > I am actually considering working in the VB.Net express until I come up to > speed on that, then make the move to VS2005. The express stuff is free and > provides all the functionality that I can understand for the moment anyway. > Once I get that down, then I will be ready to learn the stuff that the > express versions do not provide. > > As for reporting, that is a show stopper, especially when you come from > Access which is one of the better report generators out there. I am > actually considering simply using automation to continue using Access as a > report generator for the moment. Again, once I come up to speed on the .Net > stuff, then I can re-examine my options.