Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software
rockysmolin at bchacc.com
Sat Aug 11 18:40:03 CDT 2007
Do you know (after 10 years) how hard it is to take offense at anything written in COLBY? :o) The CR that I ignore are the ones from people I don't want to email with. If someone like yourself makes a CR I do it. It takes 5 seconds and I'm hooked up. But more than reducing spam, I'm starting on a subtle program to reduce the number of emails altogether. Taking a higher level view (like the altitude from which you push people from your metaphorical airplane) - there's too GD much email, altogether. I'm drowning in content - from jokes to important tech news to current events to family trivia. I admire the guy who declared 'email bankruptcy' - Lessig. Except for his pledge to try to keep up in the future. Why? There is a psychological model - two axes labeled Important/Unimportant on the Y and Urgent/Not Urgent on the X. So you can visualize what's in each quadrant. Generally people spend too much time in the Urgent/Unimportant quadrant. That's where you find most of the email and internet content. Email and the 'net create what I call 'artificial urgency' a phenomenon IMO created by the FedEx marketing department. Mostly it does not absolutely positively have to be there overnight. But once you're on that track, everything gets accelerated and takes on an artificial urgency. And since it's the weekend maybe I can get away with the OT ramble. Moderators should all be at the beach. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 4:08 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT Friday: Comodo AntiSpam Rocky, And no, I was not responding to your response specifically. My apologies that it appears that way. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 6:19 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT Friday: Comodo AntiSpam Rocky, And the bottom line is that is a valid choice. If the person is not important to you why in the world would you even read their email WITHOUT a CR required? If the person you are calling wants you to do something to help him control the flood and you don't really care about talking to him, then don't talk to him. CR is all about "I need help here and if I am important enough to talk to, please help me out here. When I was growing up, my grandfather needed to put stucco on the outside of his barn. The whole community showed up to help. Now you won't even take 10 seconds to respond to a CR. Just goes to show how much community is worth to us these days eh? I have been a contributing member of this community for 10 years and you would think I had raped your daughter by the response when a CR request shows up in your inbox. Pretty sad really. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 1:38 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT Friday: Comodo AntiSpam Now that you mention it, I've bailed on a couple of those CRs myself. Just wasn't interested enough in the message. I figure, if I get an email from them asking why I haven't responded, I'll tell them. It's like people who have caller ID and won't take your call if your number is blocked and you have to dial *82 or some such thing. Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Carbonnell Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 9:57 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT Friday: Comodo AntiSpam On 8/11/07, Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software <rockysmolin at bchacc.com> wrote: > How does CR handle the problem of people making inquiries about my > products and service from my web site? I don't think I'd want them to > have to go through the CR thing. The sender has to jump through hoops (reply to an e-mail, click a link, enter a pass phrase/code, etc one or more of the listed steps) to get their e-mail to you, or you have to go through the list of held posts and manually approve it. Be forewarned I know a LOT of people that will not, under any circumstances, reply to a CR system. The get summarily deleted. That's what I do. Even if you manually approve the e-mail to get through to you, you've already lost a lot or people. Now granted the places I hang out on the web are with a lot more technically savy (e-mail and mail servers) than Joe Average user. There are some that even set up rules to automatically delete the CRs sight unseen, so there are folks that would not even know their e-mails haven't gotten through. I'm not trying to make it sound like the sky is falling, but just telling you what I have seen and experienced personally. > BTW, I feel kind of out of the loop on this since I never get that > much spam > - maybe 5-10 a day. Outlook seems to be real good at routing the spam > to my junk folder. Very rarely does a legit email show up there. And > a couple times a week it misses a spam and it ends up in my inbox. Hell, I can send some to you. I've already got all the pills and software I can handle. 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