[AccessD] MDB to SQL Server

Jim Moss jim.moss at jlmoss.net
Wed Feb 21 15:56:25 CST 2007


Actually SQL Server 2005 Express has a 4G capacity per database, and I
guess an unlimited number of databases per. Th 4 gig doesn't include the
log file, just the .mdf.

> Jurgen,
>
> A few thoughts:
>
> 1) SQL Server 2005 Express has a 2G storage capacity, and is free.
>
> 2) You can protect your production BE data file using Windows folder
> permissions in an interesting and non-intuitive way.  You'll need to get a
> copy of the book by Garry Robinson on Real World MS Access Security, and
> read through Chapter 12.  This prevents regular users from opening the
> folder, but allows them to use a FE that connects to a BE in that folder.
> I
> use this at two customers, and it works well.
>
> 3) It sounds as though you have 10 years' data accumulated into one BE
> file.
> Is there a possibility that some of the data could be moved to an archive
> BE
> file?
>
> 4) For speedier performance, several people have suggested creating a
> connection to the BE from the FE when first opening a database.  Keeping
> the
> connection open can improve performance because the overhead associated
> with
> opening and closing many connections (recordsets, queries, bound forms,
> etc.) can be avoided.  However, there is a registry key which defines a
> time-out period for an inactive connection to Jet - the default value is
> 10
> minutes.
>
> 5) Why are you getting complaints about your system which is faster?
> Because everyone knows that complaining to the corporate parent is
> useless,
> but when they ask you to do something, you respond!  :-)
>
> HTH!
> Dan Waters
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jurgen Welz
> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 2:20 PM
> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
> Subject: [AccessD] MDB to SQL Server
>
> People:  Given that the organization I work for has decided that the
> database I built for them over the years will be going from a maximum of
> 41
> to about 50 users in the course of this year and the complexity and size
> of
> our database has been growing at an ever accellerating rate and we have
> been
>
> suffering from the occasional corruption, the question of what we can do
> has
>
> been asked of me.  We are running individual DAO FE files via a pair (soon
> to be four) of servers against a file server MDB on a gigabit LAN.
>
> Corruptions started happening a couple years back when users copied the
> backend MDB file to their local laptops.  When we were on a local network,
> this never caused any grief but when we switched to a terminal server
> environment, the copy duration went to several minutes and, unhappily, the
> original server data flie frequently became corrupted.  If any users
> logged
> on after the corruption, they were given an error about a damaged database
> while existing logins proceeded without issue.  The only resolution was to
> bump everyone off, repair the BE file and then allow everyone back on
> again.
>
>   Typically, one record in a single table would be found to be at fault
> with
>
> a ton of invalid junk in the fields.  That record would typically have to
> be
>
> deleted.  Curiously, it often contained out of range numbers even after
> repair.
>
> We put a stop to copying open MDB files to remote laptops (you could still
> make a copy on the server and then copy that copy without issue).
> Notwithstanding that, we occasionally get a corrupt MDB BE file showing a
> similar kind of damage.  Of course I have no way of knowing whether anyone
> tried to copy the file or whether it was just the fact that user or MDB
> limits had been exceeded.  Corruption may happen once every 4 to 8 months.
>
> When I started all this in about '96, my boss was told that our parent
> company would look at our data needs in 5 to 7 years.  My boss was told
> today that it would be another 4 years at least.  I suspect that target
> will
>
> be signifcantly exceeded.  We could be up to 100 users by that time, with
> a
> 200 Megabyte BE file.
>
> The whole discussion about DAO/ADO caught my attention as I haven't been
> doing much with our system in the past 4 years other than some refinements
> and enhancements.  Access development has become more of a sideline.  I
> wrote the basics at a time when DAO was my only option and wasn't give the
> resources to convert to ADO.  SQL Server has never been an option, even
> though the parent company, which grosses over a billion in annual revenue,
> relies on it for their systems.  If I can provide sufficient
> justification,
> I may get the go ahead to upsize.
>
> The question I am posed is, what is the next step for the system I built.
> My boss is complaining about performance of some of our forms, but the
> fact
> is, our forms display considerably more information on a screen than any
> of
> the parent company forms and they still open and populate a great deal
> faster than our parent company forms.  When I pull a safety stats report
> on
> screen from the parent company on a single manager on perhaps 20 projects,
> it may take 20 to 30 seconds to load, yet my slowest project form will
> load
> within 10 seconds.  My load time is a bit slow because of a number of
> lists
> and combos that retrieve a large number of records or retrieve from tables
> that I can reduce in size by archiving datas, but it shows a great deal
> more
>
> information from a broader variety of sources.
>
> I know I can gain sginficant performance by denormalizing.  I've always
> split my addresses into tables for country, province/state, city and
> address.  By storing all the data in a single field rather than in
> separate
> tables, the joins process significantly faster.
>
> I have used Callback functions for many lists and combos to aviod hitting
> a
> BE repeatedly, but, for continuous forms using combos filling from a table
> with a large number of records, the forms poplulate quite slowly, much
> more
> slowly than when the combo is filled with an SQL rowsource.  I could make
> Just In Time combos and use arrays of controls (as I have done in various
> situations) but I think my best option is to cut down the size of the data
> file, giving users the option to see current data only, and current data
> unioned with archived data and let them wait the small percentage of the
> time when that is necessary.
>
> Given that we are moving from 2 servers to 4 over the next few weeks, it
> seems that people are starting to realize that our division has
> increasingly
>
> significant needs and be more amenable to suggestions.  I welcome any
> input
> from the list.
>
> Ciao
> J|rgen Welz
> Edmonton, Alberta
> jwelz at hotmail.com
>
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