Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software
rockysmolin at bchacc.com
Thu Mar 22 11:56:20 CDT 2007
If it takes less than about 6 minutes...:) I was going to send it to my cousin - a retired math prof. He likes that sort of thing Rocky -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 7:17 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT(kinda): Crack Code The date is stored in the table...but not the time. If you want a date/time...I have to plug the OBJID into the FE and it converts it for me. I can extract the date and the OBJID...but you can have up to 86400 different OBJIDs for 1 date. I can try to get about 100 if you like. Mark >From: "Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software" <rockysmolin at bchacc.com> >Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem >solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com> >To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem >solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com> >Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT(kinda): Crack Code >Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 15:50:57 -0700 > >Oh. You can't extract them from the file? > >Rocky > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A Matte >Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 2:03 PM >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT(kinda): Crack Code > >lol...If you want to try just to do it...I will put something >together...I have to go to a Win95 machine and enter 1 OBJID at a >time...and write it down the DT. I probably have around 10 >million...I'll see if I can get a 100. > > > >From: "Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software" > ><rockysmolin at bchacc.com> > >Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem > >solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > >To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem > >solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > >Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT(kinda): Crack Code > >Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 13:57:21 -0700 > > > >Mark: > > > >Can you post maybe 100 or so to give us a little more sample to go on? > > > >Or send a spreadsheet to those of us who like these things with all > >of the OBJIDs and dates (how many are there?)? > > > >Rocky > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A > >Matte > >Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 12:26 PM > >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > >Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT(kinda): Crack Code > > > >This thing reminds me of the crypto toy at the end of the Davinci > >Code(8 little wheels with letters and numbers). > > > >I think the sequence is jumbled as well. In trying to solve I > >started dissecting a looking at individual characters. I looked at > >the 8th(last > >character) for frequency. The distribution didn't make much > >sense(listed below). So I looked at the least, "C" to try and > >isolate a pattern...and found it was only the last char on 9/12/2001 > >and 9/19/2001...and not for all of the records. I might pass it on > >to the University...but I'll probably just let it die...like it > >should have a long time ago. The only reason they are still using it > >is that no one understood the relationships of the tables. After I > >discovered that the fields OBJID in the different tables were not > >necessarily related...and that the 1 table with 2 keys in it...was > >actually related to itself 3 or more times...we made leaps and > >bounds...for the first time they could say definitively that they were missing records. > > > >Any way...thanks again everyone. > > > >Mar A. Matte > > > > > >LastChar Count > >1 151767 > >2 114816 > >3 88366 > >4 63108 > >5 33900 > >6 24099 > >7 14439 > >8 8886 > >9 5427 > >A 1743 > >B 634 > >C 115 > > > > >From: "Dan Waters" <dwaters at usinternet.com> > > >Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem > > >solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > > >To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem > > >solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > > >Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT(kinda): Crack Code > > >Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 14:01:26 -0500 > > > > > >Mark, > > > > > >Perhaps you could contact the math department at a nearby university. > > >They may want to take a whack at this, or they may know someone who > > >would think that solving this kind of puzzle is great fun! > > > > > >Dan Waters > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark A > > >Matte > > >Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 1:36 PM > > >To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > >Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT(kinda): Crack Code > > > > > >I have found also that if I sort on the key...the corresponding > > >times are also sorted correctly. > > > > > > > > > >From: "Billy Pang" <tuxedoman888 at gmail.com> > > > >Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem > > > >solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > > > >To: "Access Developers discussion and problem > > > >solving"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > > > >Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT(kinda): Crack Code > > > >Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 11:32:45 -0700 > > > > > > > >good gravy those alphanumeric codes are indeed alphanumeric... I > > > >thought maybe it was md5 hashed so you can do lookups to > > > >determine original value but if there is a tool to reverse value > > > >back to datetime maybe it is not > > >a > > > >hashed string. > > > > > > > > > > > >On 3/21/07, Mark A Matte <markamatte at hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The reason I need to convert back...is that I have about 40K > > > > > orphaned records. There is no date or time stamp in this table. > > > > > If I can > > > >convert > > > > > the OBJID back to a date/time...I might be able to > > > > > re-establish some > > >of > > > > > the > > > > > relationships by adjusting these times...or at least give an > > > > > accurate timeline of when the relation ship was lost. Below > > > > > are > >some > >examples. > > > > > > > > > > OBJID > > > > > H9WDH701=02/06/03 09:19:55 AM > > > > > H9WLA903=02/06/03 12:08:33 PM > > > > > HLBDMS01=09/16/03 08:56:52 AM > > > > > H0HEOO01=08/07/02 09:19:36 PM > > > > > IYY5UQ01=05/08/06 05:40:02 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Billy Pang" <tuxedoman888 at gmail.com> > > > > > >Reply-To: Access Developers discussion and problem > > > > > >solving<accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > > > > > >To: "Access Developers discussion and problem > > > > > >solving"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > > > > > >Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT(kinda): Crack Code > > > > > >Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 09:52:24 -0700 > > > > > > > > > > > >can you post an example of a record with the key? > > > > > > > > > > > >also, why do you need to convert these keys back to datetime? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >On 3/21/07, Mark A Matte <markamatte at hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a DB...just the data...no FE...all of the Keys are > > > > > > > 8 > > > >character > > > > > > > alpha-numeric. This key is generated from the date time. > > > > > > > The > > > >company > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > developed the app no longer exists. I need to figure out > > > > > > > the > > >logic > > > > > >used, > > > > > > > and convert these keys back to date time. I've searched > > > > > > > online > > >for > > > > > any > > > > > > > reference to the company/software...and no luck. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any ideas/directions...anything? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark A. 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