[AccessD] Dot Net, where to start?

Shamil Salakhetdinov shamil at users.mns.ru
Tue May 1 14:30:12 CDT 2007


I'd say that with VB.NET (and .NET Framework) you are getting opportunity to
see and to control the 3rd (4th,... etc.) dimensions after you have been
living in two dimensional flat world in your "previous MS Access life"...
(please recall how much times you were getting stuck or needed to do "dirty
tricks" to overcome MS Access/VBA/VB6 limitations...)

And that above sentence is not a "poetic metaphor/hyperbole" - you're really
getting armored with the tools to investigate unexplored in usual MS Access
development areas - and you can do that with extreme ease and flexibility
you have never seen/experienced before...

Still MS Access/MS Office are great and RAD tools of course - one
(experienced/professional) MS Access/Office developer "just" has to be aware
of their limitations and to not create false illusions/expectations not for
oneself not for one self's customers...

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Shamil
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of MartyConnelly
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 2:48 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Dot Net, where to start?

I would suggest, it is somewhere between 90 and 180 degrees,
just so it could be an obtuse angle.

Jim Lawrence wrote:

>Hi All:
>
>My 2 cents on this is that most if not all developers on the Access List
are
>working on or/and will be moving towards Dot Net at one point. I see the
>progress more as a migration process something like a 90 degree turn not as
>a 180.
>
>Jim
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
>Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 10:55 AM
>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Dot Net, where to start?
>
>Does it belong in this list?   Also, there are differences between VS
>2003 and VS 2005 when it comes to creating typed datasets.
>
>Charlotte 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
>Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 5:01 AM
>To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Dot Net, where to start?
>
>Hi Charlotte
>
>Yes, that sounds like a learning experience.
>
>/gustav
>
>  
>
>>>>kp at sdsonline.net 30-04-2007 04:31 >>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>Charlotte - any chance of stepping us dot net newbies thru an example of
>what you mean? 
>
>Kath
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Charlotte Foust
>  To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>  Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 2:18 AM
>  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Dot Net, where to start?
>
>
>  The chapters on ADO.Net give a good overview of datasets, data
>providers
>  and the actual relational objects (tables, views, etc.), and it also
>  compares ADO.Net and ADO as well.  But I haven't seen any books
>  describing the data tier structures in the way we built them.  Most of
>  the books start with directly binding a form to a data adapter, and we
>  work the other way around.  We build data "entities" that implement
>  typed datasets and expose the behaviors and methods we need.  We can
>  then drop one of those entities on a form or report to provide the
>data
>  connections we need.  The working code is actually in a dataprovider
>  class with the entity containing calls to the dataprovider and even to
>  other entities if need be.
>
>  Our model has evolved as we developed the apps and figured out what
>  worked, and we have "refactored" (a much overused work in our shop)
>the
>  bits and pieces many times over the course of the past two years.  
>
>  Charlotte Foust 
>
>
>
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