Charlotte Foust
cfoust at infostatsystems.com
Wed May 16 10:12:24 CDT 2007
You beat me to it, Jim. I was going to say the same thing. ADO is about manipulating *data* not tables, fields, etc. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 8:09 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] DAO vs ADO Jim, <<DAO was designed specifically for Jet and ADO around SQL db BE's (3, 4). >> In regards to ADO, that's not correct. ADO was designed as a universal data connector lib. It allows you to connect to databases, spreadsheets, text files, etc. Jim. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hewson Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 10:58 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] DAO vs ADO Thanks to everyone who replied. I'm sometimes a little bone-headed and it takes me sometime to digest what has been said. I combined all the comments in the hope I would understand the concepts better. Below is what I gleaned out of the correspondence. I do have one more question... When reviewing the References list, how does one know which reference uses ADO vs DAO? Thanks, 1. The difference between DAO and ADO. DAO is optimized for the Jet Engine (1) and is a specific library for MDBs (2). The library has objects for databases, tables, queries, forms and reports (documents) modules etc. The library knows all about the structure of the MDB and allows the programmer to program to the pieces of an MDB container (1, 2, 4). ADO on the other hand is an abstracted library that is used to manipulate tables, fields and their properties. It does not understand the structure of the object which contains the tables / fields (ibid). ADO is a more generic data handling model, and it handles that role much better than DAO in many cases (1, 4). DAO will run parameter queries using references on forms but ADO will fail (e.g. Forms!frmSomething!cmbSomething) (4). When identical functions are included in both object models Access will use the library first referenced unless specified otherwise (3). The two models have objects of the same name but different methods and properties (1). ADO is more flexible than DAO (4). DAO was designed specifically for Jet and ADO around SQL db BE's (3, 4). When using an mdb/Jet BE's DAO is usually much faster and has a better object model ...the reverse is true for ADO (3). 1a. Examining VBA code to determine which library is used There is much confusion because both libraries have some of the same objects. If an object is not dimensioned (Dim) VB attempts to use the reference physically closest to the top of the reference list (2, 3). DAO and ADO recordsets are FUNDAMENTALLY DIFFERENT and will not function interchangeably. If a reference is any part of a mdb structure, then it is DAO since ADO does not understand the MDB structure (2). You can't pass objects back and forth between ADO and DAO (1). 1b. Mixing DAO and ADO They can be mixed but dimension statements must specifically declare objects as DAO or ADODB (ADOX) (1, 2). The dimension statement binds the variable to the correct object in the correct library and both can be used "at the same time" (2). 2. Recommendation for MDBs ADO is abstracted, allowing one to switch from MDB to SQL Server to EXCEL at the drop of a connection string. It is also slower, often times RADICALLY slower. DAO knows the details of the data store intimately and can thus optimize its operations whereas ADO cannot. DAO can only be used for an MDB or a LINKED table (2). 3. Connecting to data store When working with an ADP, which is an Access FE directly to SQL Server without linked tables, ADO is necessary (1, 3). DAO can't handle an ADO recordset and vice versa (1). If the table is linked, the link handles the connection to the data store and either ADO or DAO can be used. The link uses ODBC internally, but does not use ADO itself. ADO can (in code) directly reference tables out in a NON-MDB data store using ODBC whereas DAO cannot (2). Recommendations: 1. In VBA dimension (Dim) objects with either DAO or ADODB for similar objects (e.g. DAO.Recordset or ADODB.Recordset). 2. Use DAO when: a. Connecting to a data store via a LINK (SQL Server, MDB, Excel, etc.) b. within an Access MDB container 3. Use ADO when: a. ODBC is used to an external data store (SQL Server, MDB, Excel, etc.) b. working with an ADP 1. Charlotte Foust 2. John Colby 3. William Hindman 4. Drew Wutka Jim jhewson at karta.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com