[AccessD] DAO vs ADO corrected summarization

Jim Lawrence accessd at shaw.ca
Wed May 16 12:38:14 CDT 2007


I would say DAO is but a subset of the functionality of ADO, highly
optimized the MDB. There are no operations that DAO can do that ADO can not
duplicate but the reverse is not true.

Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 9:11 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] DAO vs ADO corrected summarization

Jim,

I think that saying ADO is more flexible than DAO is like saying pliers are
more flexible than a monkey wrench.  They are different tools for different
purposes.  

DAO is certainly more flexible if you only need to access an MDB database.
It is all you will ever need, and can manipulate ACCESS objects that ADO
simply does not understand. 

OTOH ADO is more flexible if you might need to switch between different
types of data stores.  DAO cannot easily do that.  

OTOH, since LINKS can be used for some very specific types of objects, and
you can programmatically manipulate Links with DAO, you can create links to
certain types of other objects which allows DAO to "manipulate" data in
those specific types of objects.

You see what I am getting to here.  They are just different animals.  Access
/ JET can link to a very specific set of data stores.  ADO can "talk to" any
type of data store that you can find a driver for.  ADO is much more
flexible and easier to use if you want to switch quickly and easily from
data store to data store.  To do that with DAO, you have to muck around with
the links, and even then your choices are limited as to where the data can
be.


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hewson
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 11:53 AM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] DAO vs ADO corrected summarization

1.  The difference between DAO and ADO.
	DAO is optimized for the Jet Engine (1) and is a specific library
for MDBs (2).  The library has objects for databases, tables, queries, forms
and reports (documents) modules etc.  The library knows all about the
structure of the MDB and allows the programmer to program to the pieces of
an MDB container (1, 2, 4).

	ADO on the other hand is an abstracted library that is used to
manipulate tables, fields and their properties.  It does not understand the
structure of the object which contains the tables / fields (ibid). ADO is a
more generic data handling model, and it handles that role much better than
DAO in many cases (1, 4). DAO will run parameter queries using references on
forms but ADO will fail (e.g. Forms!frmSomething!cmbSomething) (4). 

	When identical functions are included in both object models Access
will use the library first referenced unless specified otherwise (3).  The
two models have objects of the same name but different methods and
properties (1). ADO is more flexible than DAO (4).

	DAO was designed specifically for Jet and ADO was designed as a
universal data connection library (3, 4, 5).  ADO manipulates "data" not
database objects (1).  DAO is an object model optimized for data containers
and is designed to handle all objects (2).

1a.  Examining VBA code to determine which library is used
	There is much confusion because both libraries have some of the same
objects.   If an object is not dimensioned (Dim) VB attempts to use the
reference physically closest to the top of the reference list (2, 3).  DAO
and ADO recordsets are FUNDAMENTALLY DIFFERENT and will not function
interchangeably.  If a reference is any part of a mdb structure, then it is
DAO since ADO does not understand the MDB structure (2). You can't pass
objects back and forth between ADO and DAO (1).

1b.  Mixing DAO and ADO
	They can be mixed but dimension statements must specifically declare
objects as DAO or ADODB (ADOX) (1, 2).  The dimension statement binds the
variable to the correct object in the correct library and both can be used
"at the same time" (2). 

2.  Recommendation for MDBs
	ADO is abstracted, allowing one to switch from MDB to SQL Server to
EXCEL at the drop of a connection string.  It is also slower, often times
RADICALLY slower.  DAO knows the details of the data store intimately and
can thus optimize its operations whereas ADO cannot.  DAO can only be used
for an MDB or a LINKED table (2).

3.  Connecting to data store
	When working with an ADP, which is an Access FE directly to SQL
Server without linked tables, ADO is necessary (1, 3).  DAO can't handle an
ADO recordset and vice versa (1).

	If the table is linked, the link handles the connection to the data
store and either ADO or DAO can be used.  The link uses ODBC internally, but
does not use ADO itself.  ADO can (in code) directly reference tables out in
a NON-MDB data store using ODBC whereas DAO cannot (2).


Recommendations:
1.  In VBA dimension (Dim) objects with either DAO or ADODB for similar
objects (e.g. DAO.Recordset or ADODB.Recordset).
2.  Use DAO when:
	a. Connecting to a data store via a LINK (SQL Server, MDB, Excel,
etc.)
	b. within an Access MDB container
	c. References are preceded by "Microsoft DAO Library" (1) 3.  Use
ADO when:
	a. ODBC is used to an external data store (SQL Server, MDB, Excel,
etc.)
	b. working with an ADP
	c. references are preceded by "ActiveX Objects" (1)


1.  Charlotte Foust
2.  John Colby
3.  William Hindman
4.  Drew Wutka
5.  Jim Dettman

Jim
jhewson at karta.com
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 10:33 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] DAO vs ADO

Other than that, it is a good summarization.  Perhaps it could be placed up
on our web site?

======I've already sent a message to John on that! ;) We need to make sure
it's technically accurate and then a quick edit! 

Susan H. 

-- 
AccessD mailing list
AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com

-- 
AccessD mailing list
AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com

-- 
AccessD mailing list
AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd
Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com




More information about the AccessD mailing list