jwcolby
jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com
Tue May 29 06:18:30 CDT 2007
A.D. It is possible that the reason for the problem is the environment. Due to the size of the databases, I do all of this stuff in SQL Server. All I know is that when I do the "verify sql syntax" it returns an error. I am still working on it. I pulled a table of just the duplicates. I could send just those in a separate database container, zipped up. I'll let you know if I need to do that. I have to get this stuff working today or I will be in trouble. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of A.D.TEJPAL Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 1:35 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Cc: ADT Subject: Re: [AccessD] deduplication John, PKID does not have to be sequential. All that is required is that it should be unique. For all duplicate records pertaining to a given HashPerson, the subquery generates calculated sequential numbers, enabling deletion of all duplicates except the first one. The delete query using count subquery, as suggested by me, was duly tested and found to perform satisfactorily on Access 2003. The other alternative, using a subquery with NOT IN clause, as suggested by Gustav in his second post, is also found to perform smoothly. Subquery with NOT IN clause is sometimes slow. However, in this particular case, it might even prove faster than Count(*) subquery as the cross-check involved is essentially against a single record. Either of the two alternative styles of delete query should have given the desired results at your end. If you are still stuck, and are in a position to send a zipped copy of your table tblData with a few records (say 50 to 100 records), it could be tested at my end. While doing so, the following tasks would get performed: (a) For each HashPerson, merge values across different records, so as to fill in blanks if any. This refers to your other thread "Merge records". (b) After filling up blanks as per (a) above, delete all duplicates so that there is only one record per person. A.D.Tejpal (adtp at airtelbroadband.in) ----- Original Message ----- From: jwcolby To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 02:18 Subject: Re: [AccessD] deduplication A.D. I typed in your delete query exactly as specified and it too gave me "compile" errors. For starters, my PKIDs are not necessarily sequential. The data originated in a 65 million record table (tblHSID). That table had a sequential PKID. I subsequently ran the address portion of those 65 million records through an address validation package, coming out with about 51 million records with valid addresses. I created a brand new table (tblAZHSID) with the original PKIDs, plus the name / address info, plus other data added in by the address validation software (delivery route, lat/long etc). So right there you can see that the PKIDs are missing 14 million numbers out of the original 65 million sequential numbers. I went back in to the tblAZHSID (validated address table) and created three new fields called HashAddr, HashFamily and HashPerson. I then filled in these fields using the hash function in SQL Server 2007 - Hash(Addr + Zip5 + zip4) for HashAddr, Hash(Addr + Zip5 + zip4 + Lname) for HashFamily and Hash(Addr + Zip5 + zip4 + Lname + Fname) for HashPerson. I then indexed these three fields. I then get an "order" where I have to join the validated tblAZHSID back to tblHSID using the PKID, and then run WHERE clauses on the various data fields back in tblHSID. This resulted (in this particular order) in a new tblData of about 4.3 million records. This new table has only PKID, Lname, Fname, Addr, City, St, Zip5, Zip4, HashAddr, HashFamily and HashPerson fields. It is used for mailing labels and needs nothing more to fill the order. It is against this tblData that I am attempting to dedupe. I will need to dedupe to the family level, in other words there should be one and only one record in tblData with any given HashFamily value. The 4.3 million records have about 600k records with duplicate HashPerson values, usually 2 of the same person, but occasionally 3,4,5 or more of the same person. Obviously, any record with the same HashPerson value will also have the same HashFamily value since they have the same last name. However there will probably be even more duplicates in HashFamily since there can be multiple family members in the table, Mary Colby and John Colby, both at the same address. Now, the PKIDs as I have already discussed are not even close to consecutive. I have a fairly random selection (though not intentionally so) of 4.3 million PKs out of an original 65 million PKs. My job is to dedupe these 4.3 million records to the FAMILY level. That may in fact leave duplicates an the HashAddr level. This would occur where there are people with different last names living at the same address. By de-duping to the family level though I will in fact also dedupe to the person level. In order to dedupe to the person level I simply use the HashPerson field in all of my queries where I am looking for duplicate Hash IDs. To dedupe to the Family level, I use HashFamily field. To dedupe to the address level (only one label per address) I simply use HashAddr as the HashID field where I look for duplicates. Regardless of which level of de-duping I am attempting to accomplish, the strategy is the same. 1) Select a Hash field to use as the duplicate search mechanism 2) Find all HASHIDs in the selected hash field where count(SelectedHashField) > 1. 3) Get PKIDs for all such HashIDs in step 2 above. 4) Obtain Max(PKID) using grouping on HashID in step 3 above. 5) Obtain PKIDs in step 3 above but not in Max(PKID) query step 4 above. 6) Delete records with those PKIDs. Or at least that is my brute force method. The brute force method seems to work but obviously takes some serious work to make happen on a given table. I am working on standardizing my field names such that I can then use stored procedures to feed in a table name and get a delete to happen. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of A.D.TEJPAL Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 4:09 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] deduplication John, If you are in a position to clarify as to what type of output you are aiming at (by trying to convert the subquery into a stand-alone select query), a way could be found. The syntax error faced by you is explained by the fact that in the original SQL, the ">" operator was testing the sequential count of duplicate records as given by the output of subquery (whether more than one). Now, with removal of subquery part as attempted by you, the WHERE clause has become mathematically flawed, missing an argument before the last operator. It looks like: WHERE a = b AND c <= d > 1; If you attempt to rectify this part by putting: WHERE a = b AND c <= d; you will overcome the syntax problem, but run into a new one, getting prompted for tblData. Moreover, as soon as you change the status from subquery to a stand alone select query, alias table T1 is no longer able to perform dynamically out of synch with tblData. It is this dynamic feature, available via subquery, that enables us to get sequential count. A.D.Tejpal --------------- -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com