[AccessD] VBA abandoned in Office 2008 for Mac

...Arthur doing JC ...not bad for an amateur, eh :)

William Hindman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
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Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: [AccessD] VBA abandoned in Office 2008 for Mac


>I wonder how many users are revolting against (revolted by) the Ribbon
> thing? What I can say is that it took about 15 minutes for me to find the
> most basic commands in Word. I HATE this ribbon s**t. At the very least,
> Office ought to recognize the keystrokes we seasoned folk have learned 
> eons
> ago. For example, Alt+T = Table. Why do I have to fart around and look for
> these commands, when MS itself has schooled me into thinking this or that
> keystroke is the way to get there?
>
> Apparently, newbies like this ribbon s**t. Great. In a few more months 
> I'll
> be eligible for retirement and then Kiss This, Bill! I'd rather watch 
> Nadal
> try to come up with something to beat Fedderer. Earth to MS: Ribbons SUCK!
> Six months and I'm gone except for hobbyist play. The person who thought 
> of
> ribbons will surely go down the same flush as the person who thought of 
> the
> stupid little doggie helper. Sheesh. I feel sorry for that person. 
> Probably
> just did what he was told, ended up the most despised programmer in the
> history of Windows. However, perhaps the inventor of ribbons will take his
> place as the most despised programmer in the history of Windows.
>
> I could be quite wrong about this. I have heard more than one newbie say 
> how
> cool this ribbon thing is. Commands that have been available since God 
> Knows
> When are now right there on the ribbon. Yeah, great. Meanwhile it took me
> half an hour to deduce how to insert a row into a table. Why in the name 
> of
> God is this command on the Format menu? Which particular Redmond Einstein
> thought to place this command there? What does "Insert a row into a table"
> have even remotely to do with "Format"?
>
> There are clearly lots of brain-dead people in the state of Washington. 
> The
> one who thought to place that command there, the boss who authorized it, 
> and
> so on up the chain of command. Perhaps there has been an influx of cocaine
> or some other mind-altering drug into Redmond.
>
> Let us be fair. If anything, I try to be democratic. Let's start with the
> traditional menu plus all the ribbon stuff. Let's allow the use to 
> suppress
> either of these. Let's respect, even in the event that you suppress the
> traditional menu, all those keystrokes (Ctrl+N= New File, Ctrl+S = Save,
> etc.)
>
> So let's call spades spades: Office 2007 sucks. Vista sucks. I have the
> former installed but shall remove it this weekend. Fortunately I had the
> foresight to save nothing on O2K7 format, so when I remove it I will still
> be able to read all the files.
>
> I have yet to hear one positive experience from a Vista user. Apparently
> it's like a cyber-BDSM-place. Lots of handcuffs and zero freedom.
> Unceremoniously quits should you try anything like backing up a DVD movie.
>
> As for me, I have had quite enough of this s**t from Redmond. I'm out of 
> the
> MS loop. Open Office and Google Apps do most everything I need. Open
> Office's Base is pretty close to Access, though not quite there. Ubuntu is
> way nicer than Vista, and it runs on some of my admittedly lame hardware.
>
> Earth to Redmond: you are running out of reasons for us to stick around.
>
> A.
>
>
> On 5/30/07, jwcolby <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> wrote:
>>
>> Boy will there be a BUNCH of companies not upgrading beyond that!   How
>> many
>> apps are out there coded in vba?
>>
>>
>> John W. Colby
>> Colby Consulting
>> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Ken Ismert
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 3:16 PM
>> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
>> Subject: [AccessD] VBA abandoned in Office 2008 for Mac
>>
>>
>> The first shoe has dropped: Microsoft has abandoned VBA in its latest
>> Office
>> suite for the Macintosh:
>>
>> Mac Users Face Hurdles with New Office Versions
>> http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2138349,00.asp?kc=EWKNLINF053007STR4
>>
>> Although there is a converter tool for older Office documents, with
>> promises
>> for VBA support in the future, Mac developers are encouraged to use
>> Applescript instead.
>>
>> Access developers have to at least consider the possibility that Office
>> 2007 will be the last version of Office that will natively run VBA.
>>
>> -Ken
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