William Hindman
wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com
Sat Nov 3 08:07:12 CDT 2007
...I don't "get" the last paragraph Shamil ...did you post this on OT? William ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shamil Salakhetdinov" <shamil at users.mns.ru> To: "'Access-D'" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 2:56 AM Subject: [AccessD] OT: If he would have not arrived today,it could not be understood... > > Hi All, > > This post is a way off-topic and it's not easy weekend reading but I dare > to > post it here because it's related to the people of many nations and I > expect > this my post will be let through by moderators who allowed to have here a > rather heated discussion about fires in California... > > No, I do not expect a heated discussion of this OT thread here. Just read > it. > > This post has excerpts from an article published on 31-OCT-2007 here: > > http://www.kommersant.ru/doc.aspx?DocsID=820588 > > Here is its automated translation: > > http://www.translate.ru/url/tran_url.asp?lang=ru&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kommer > sant.ru%2Fdoc.aspx%3FDocsID%3D820588&direction=re&template=General&cp1=NO&cp > 2=NO&autotranslate=on&transliterate=on&psubmit2.x=44&psubmit2.y=6 > > Below are the excerpts, which I tried to make more readable than referred > above automated translation. My short comments are in brackets marked with > (SS: ...). As you can find this article is far from being "an apologetics > to > the nowadays Russian Authorities"... > > I'm sorry that is all I can do now. Read on till the end and then you > should > get what a lot of people feel and think here. Thank you. > > <<<< > If he would have not arrived today, it could not be understood... > ================================================================= > > ...Yesterday, in Day of Memory of Victims of Political Reprisals, the > president of Russia Vladimir Putin has arrived to Butovo where are buried > more than 20 thousand of people shot to death in 1937-1938.... > > ...Here are buried more than 20 thousands of persons, - speaks diakon > Dmitrij, and these are only about whom we precisely know. More than three > hundreds of them are canonized, these are those from approximately > thousand > who passed on church affairs: not only clerics, but also church heads, and > simply active laymen. First Russian pilot Danilevsky, troupe of one Baltic > theatre with its full complement lays here... People of sixty > nationalities > are buried here: Greeks, Japanese, Germans... even an Epiopian... > > ...You go on a sanded pathway, and you realize, that what you now feel is > "the ground burning under foots". To not touch it, to not tramble it down > that is all what is required from you now. Because you never ever walk > over > the tombs before. Leaves rustle under foots, as pieces of polyfoam in > hands. > And you feel "frost on your skin"... > > ... - For us it is a real tragedy, - he (SS:Mr. Putin) has continued - > the > scale of this tragedy is enormous - millions of persons were banished, > have > been shot to death. And that were first of all people with their own > opinion > who were not afraid to openly express this their opinion... The most > effective people, color of the nation were destroyed.... > > ...I (SS:this artcle author continues), maybe, first time have seen the > confused president. > > - That's a complete crazyness (SS: umopomrachenie <- RUS), - has murmured > the president. - it seems, that it is impossible to do that. For what?! > (SS: for what all that people were executed to death?)... > > ...Father Cyril, the grandson of one of shot on this field, has made a > helpless gesture and has added, that here the executors have shot the boy > of > twelve years. It was authorized to shoot only from fifteen, and they have > attributed in the documents three superfluous years to the boy (to be > "authorized" to kill him "legally"). They have also shot the seventy years > old grandmother, and it is not clear for what reason she was shot do > death.... > > ... - But memory is necessary to us not in itself, - spoke president. - > but > to determine the ways for development of the country... Political > disputes, > fights, struggle of opinions are necessary, but it is necessary, that this > process would have not been destructive - it should be creative > > Now it should become clearer, why "United Russia" (SS: the most powerful > political party here leaded by Mr.Putin for this year's December Russian > Parliament Elections) will not participate in pre-election debate. These > debate, probably, risk to become destructive for them (SS: for "United > Russia" party).... > >>>>> > > > -- > Shamil > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com