[AccessD] consulting fees

jwcolby jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com
Thu Oct 4 13:43:05 CDT 2007


>My policy on bug fixes is that if the client wants to pay for a fully
documented set of measurable objectives as well as an independent company to
run true beta testing, then I will not charge for bug fixes.

Oooooh I like that.  If I ever get static on my policy I will use that one!


So far no one has ever given me static.  

Of course I always take Larry (6'5, 300 lbs, "Mom" tatoo") in to my
negotiations with me.  ;-) 


John W. Colby
Colby Consulting
www.ColbyConsulting.com 
-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer Gross
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 2:10 PM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] consulting fees

Hi Larry,

My policy on bug fixes is that if the client wants to pay for a fully
documented set of measurable objectives as well as an independent company to
run true beta testing, then I will not charge for bug fixes.
Otherwise, all bug fixes are on them.  Most clients want it done yesterday
so they are willing to do their own beta testing and pay me to fix "bugs".

Jennifer

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From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lawrence Mrazek
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 7:01 AM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] consulting fees


Jim mentioned bug fixes ... Do we have opinions on whether you charge for
them or not?  

Larry Mrazek
LCM Research, Inc.
www.lcm-res.com
lmrazek at lcm-res.com
ph. 314-432-5886
mobile: 314-496-1645

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 7:50 AM
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Charlotte,

  <<You don't set enough value on your time, Jim. >>

  Hum...don't know about that.  Long ago, my rate was approx double what it
was now and it caused a multitude of problems.  
  
  One of which was the never ending fight with some clients about what was
considered billable or not. Every invoice I sent was checked and god forbid
I took ten minutes to get a coffee and forget to deduct it.  Bug fixes was
another.  Many times I got the "I'm not paying you $135/hr to make mistakes"
comment.  They expected everything to be fixed for free.
Of course that meant everything needed to be documented to the hilt, which
actually slowed down the pace of many projects.

  There is also the issue of resentment that you need to deal with.  A lot
of management and employees end up with the attitude that your "one of
those" (highly paid consultants) instead of "one of them" (a guy trying to
make a living).

  So quite some time ago, I cut my rate in half (has to be at least ten
years).  As a result, I have a lot less headaches, still make $100K per
year, which is quite comfortable for where I live, have never been without
full time work, and I have a lot of happy clients that I can deal with
easily.

  There are of course some drawbacks, like never having enough free time to
learn new things, etc, but I'm happy enough with the way things are.

Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 5:37 PM
To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
Subject: Re: [AccessD] consulting fees

You don't set enough value on your time, Jim.  I only offer that kind of a
rate to non-profits or special buddies.  My normal rate is (was, I haven't
done any consulting lately) between $150 and $200 depending on how much they
irritate me!  LOL  

Charlotte Foust

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 12:25 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] consulting fees


  I must be cheap<g> as I'm charging $70/hr.  Doesn't matter what I do;
development, training, doc's, travel time, etc.

  I charge for my time and not the skill set.

Jim. 

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 1:59 PM
To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: [AccessD] consulting fees

I have a unique consulting opportunity and I want to make sure I don't
under/over bid myself -- it's strictly for technical expertise -- not a
development or writing project. I'd be reviewing technical content for
technical accuracy, comprehension, and advice. This is much more than a
technical editor -- they already have that -- but rather, I'd be acting as a
technical advisor/collaborator.

My consulting fees are $135 an hour, but I'm in Kentucky and no one ever
even bats an eye. This company is in Texas. I don't do development work
anymore, period.

I don't want to be too nosy and ask you guys what you charge. Advice?
Opinions? Insight?

Susan H.
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