jwcolby
jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com
Thu Oct 4 13:43:05 CDT 2007
>My policy on bug fixes is that if the client wants to pay for a fully documented set of measurable objectives as well as an independent company to run true beta testing, then I will not charge for bug fixes. Oooooh I like that. If I ever get static on my policy I will use that one! So far no one has ever given me static. Of course I always take Larry (6'5, 300 lbs, "Mom" tatoo") in to my negotiations with me. ;-) John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer Gross Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 2:10 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] consulting fees Hi Larry, My policy on bug fixes is that if the client wants to pay for a fully documented set of measurable objectives as well as an independent company to run true beta testing, then I will not charge for bug fixes. Otherwise, all bug fixes are on them. Most clients want it done yesterday so they are willing to do their own beta testing and pay me to fix "bugs". Jennifer -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Lawrence Mrazek Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 7:01 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] consulting fees Jim mentioned bug fixes ... Do we have opinions on whether you charge for them or not? Larry Mrazek LCM Research, Inc. www.lcm-res.com lmrazek at lcm-res.com ph. 314-432-5886 mobile: 314-496-1645 -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 7:50 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] consulting fees Charlotte, <<You don't set enough value on your time, Jim. >> Hum...don't know about that. Long ago, my rate was approx double what it was now and it caused a multitude of problems. One of which was the never ending fight with some clients about what was considered billable or not. Every invoice I sent was checked and god forbid I took ten minutes to get a coffee and forget to deduct it. Bug fixes was another. Many times I got the "I'm not paying you $135/hr to make mistakes" comment. They expected everything to be fixed for free. Of course that meant everything needed to be documented to the hilt, which actually slowed down the pace of many projects. There is also the issue of resentment that you need to deal with. A lot of management and employees end up with the attitude that your "one of those" (highly paid consultants) instead of "one of them" (a guy trying to make a living). So quite some time ago, I cut my rate in half (has to be at least ten years). As a result, I have a lot less headaches, still make $100K per year, which is quite comfortable for where I live, have never been without full time work, and I have a lot of happy clients that I can deal with easily. There are of course some drawbacks, like never having enough free time to learn new things, etc, but I'm happy enough with the way things are. Jim. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 5:37 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] consulting fees You don't set enough value on your time, Jim. I only offer that kind of a rate to non-profits or special buddies. My normal rate is (was, I haven't done any consulting lately) between $150 and $200 depending on how much they irritate me! LOL Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Dettman Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 12:25 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] consulting fees I must be cheap<g> as I'm charging $70/hr. Doesn't matter what I do; development, training, doc's, travel time, etc. I charge for my time and not the skill set. Jim. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 1:59 PM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] consulting fees I have a unique consulting opportunity and I want to make sure I don't under/over bid myself -- it's strictly for technical expertise -- not a development or writing project. I'd be reviewing technical content for technical accuracy, comprehension, and advice. This is much more than a technical editor -- they already have that -- but rather, I'd be acting as a technical advisor/collaborator. My consulting fees are $135 an hour, but I'm in Kentucky and no one ever even bats an eye. This company is in Texas. I don't do development work anymore, period. I don't want to be too nosy and ask you guys what you charge. Advice? Opinions? Insight? 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