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Sat Sep 8 12:34:27 CDT 2007
Hi Shamil This link you provided took me into a LONG reading excursion which was very useful. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_Basic_for_Applications Quote from Wikepedia.. Like all .NET languages, programs written in VB.NET require the .NET framework to execute UnQuote Does this mean/infer that .NET framework is present/exists on all hosting platforms for web apps. What if I want to host my own vb.net app on my own server- do I have to have .NET framework running on that Server and if so, presumably I tell the Web Server software to recognise it (I use Abyss X2 which appears to have this facility). If I want it to run on a Hosted Server, can I assume that the ISP will be able to run such an app? Or is it something that I have to expressly ask for (just trying to get a feel for how widely it is implemented; ie. I know that ASP, PERL, etc is widely supported). Reading the other links does seem to indicate that VB will be deprectated (although they don't say so directly) but in the longer term and not the shorter term, so from that point of view, staying with VB/VBA is ok for some time to come. But these (VB) products do not produce web-enabled apps - which is, of course, where .net come in. So, If I were to go with say VB2008 Beta then it would mean that I did not have a suitable platform to rapid/ease of development and would be left struggling a bit. If this is correct then it makes sense to obtain the Visual Studio 2005 with the current vb.net support (I don't think I will be anywhere near to needing the extra enhancements of 2008 beta for some time to come) and Charlottes statement "Learning on a beta with no prior experience in the language is doing the hard way IMO." certainly makes sense to me. I should say that the only reason I want to avoid ASP is purely because it is yet another learning curve and for no other reason. One thing at a time will do for me. As we say "slowly slowly catchee monkey". When I have mastered VB.Net (say a weekend or two <g>) then I will have another think. Thanks for all the input and advice received and a big thanks Shamil for taking all that time to give me such a good insight. Regards Max -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Shamil Salakhetdinov Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 12:40 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access to VB.Net <<< Can I assume that that VBA/VB will become deprecated in the short term and that vb.net is the way to go for the future... >>> Max, Try to decide for yourself - nobody has a "crystal ball" - here are the facts: 7 "Office 2007 continues to use the legacy VBA engine. However, support for VBA in Microsoft Office for Mac will be dropped with the release of version 12, in 2008" Visual Basic for Applications http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_Basic_for_Applications Discontinuation of the VBA Licensing Program http://msdn2.microsoft.com/ru-ru/isv/Bb190538.aspx Howdy! What's up with VSA? http://blogs.msdn.com/dr._ex/archive/2005/10/03/476435.aspx Although VB6 and VBA will work OK on all the current MS operating systems including Windows Vista, which is supposed to be here until year 2014? Support Statement for Visual Basic 6.0 on WindowsR VistaT http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/vbrun/ms788708.aspx Therefore it's safe to develop applications on VB6 and VBA if you do not have clear plans in software development for the time after year 2014 (I do not have such plans for sure :) )... But VB.NET is a more efficient development language and VS is more efficient development platform than VB6 IDE/VBA IDE within MS Office Applications... -- Shamil -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gmail Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 11:32 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access to VB.Net Thank you very much for all the good advice. Arthur, do you know if this 2008 beta has the limitations that John mentioned with stand-alone 2005 or does it provide the full functionality that Visual Studio provides? Also, would you have a URL for it? So far then; definitely not vb 2005. Also: Can I assume that (following the posting by Shamil) that VBA/VB will become deprecated in the short term and that vb.net is the way to go for the future (given that my current knowledge base is vba). Also: Will vb.net give me the ability to make my apps 'net aware'. By that I mean, will I be able to make my databases available on-line without needing ASP etc. Thanks Max -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com