[AccessD] Access to VB.Net

In this context what is everyone's view on a O/R wrapper like

http://www.llblgen.com/defaultgeneric.aspx

regards
borge

---- Original message ----
>Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 15:58:38 +0200
>From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk>  
>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access to VB.Net  
>To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>
>Hi Robert
>
>Interesting. 
>But this SI group is a club of pros? I mean, USD 400 per 
license is quite some money for an amateur?
>
>http://www.codesmithtools.com/store/pricing.aspx 
>
>/gustav
>
>>>> robert at webedb.com 11-09-2007 15:17 >>>
>Charlotte,
>
>I am teaching a special interest group, Database and
>GUI Design. We are using the Codesmith/netTiers combination
>and most of the people in the group have limited experience
>in .Net. What I have found is that it actually does so
>much that it is difficult to get your arms around all that
>it does do. It uses the Enterprise Library to base itself
>on. While it is huge, it is also extremely feature rich.
>
>All you really have to learn is to program the GUI. Do
>you worry about, or even know how Access saves a record?
>No, you call the method to do it.
>
>Dim svcName as new tblNamesService
>Set svcName = tblNamesService.getall()
>dim entName as tblNames
>...code here to load the row (entity)
>txtFirstName = entName.FirstName (for example)
>...and edit it
>svcName.save(entName)
>
>That is an example of the simplicity of using the 
combination
>of Codesmith and netTiers to do a data layer. Now if you 
want
>to write all the ADO code for the connection getting the 
data
>and manipulating it, be my guest. Personally I don't have 
the
>time or energy to replicate something that is actually 
written
>better than I could.  Same with Clipper years ago, I used a
>code generator called Zachery. It wrote much tighter code 
than
>I ever did. I was on their beta team for about 3 years.
>
>And no, you don't modify their code. They give you an 
abstraction
>layer, a class that inherits the generated class, where you 
can
>make changes that do not get erased each time you 
regenerate it.
>
>Robert
>
>
>At 11:13 PM 9/10/2007, you wrote:
>>Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 14:41:10 -0700
>>From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com>
>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access to VB.Net
>>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>>         <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
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>>Robert,
>>
>>I have to say that tools like Codesmith are very useful, 
but they're
>>more useful if you understand what they're writing.  They 
can also be
>>very stupid (same like computers, natch) so you need to be 
able to
>>modify the code intelligently, since one size rarely fits 
all,
>>regardless of what the code writer thinks.  LOL
>>
>>Charlotte Foust
>
>
>
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