jwcolby
jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com
Wed Sep 12 06:47:27 CDT 2007
And are these license seats for each developer or for each application copy sold - notice that they don't really say.? I assume per developer but would want to be sure before committing. I am leery of having any company's hooks into me for each copy of my application. John W. Colby Colby Consulting www.ColbyConsulting.com -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Michael Maddison Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 2:14 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access to VB.Net Form a cursory examination of the website it looks interesting. It seems to support more then just SQL 2K+ Cheaper then the full CodeSmith/netTiers... Nice GUI Does C# + VB.net Don't have time to test it though. cheers Michael M Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access to VB.Net In this context what is everyone's view on a O/R wrapper like http://www.llblgen.com/defaultgeneric.aspx regards borge ---- Original message ---- >Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 15:58:38 +0200 >From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk> >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access to VB.Net >To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > >Hi Robert > >Interesting. >But this SI group is a club of pros? I mean, USD 400 per license is quite some money for an amateur? > >http://www.codesmithtools.com/store/pricing.aspx > >/gustav > >>>> robert at webedb.com 11-09-2007 15:17 >>> >Charlotte, > >I am teaching a special interest group, Database and GUI Design. We are >using the Codesmith/netTiers combination and most of the people in the >group have limited experience in .Net. What I have found is that it >actually does so much that it is difficult to get your arms around all >that it does do. It uses the Enterprise Library to base itself on. >While it is huge, it is also extremely feature rich. > >All you really have to learn is to program the GUI. Do you worry about, >or even know how Access saves a record? >No, you call the method to do it. > >Dim svcName as new tblNamesService >Set svcName = tblNamesService.getall() >dim entName as tblNames >...code here to load the row (entity) >txtFirstName = entName.FirstName (for example) ...and edit it >svcName.save(entName) > >That is an example of the simplicity of using the combination >of Codesmith and netTiers to do a data layer. Now if you want >to write all the ADO code for the connection getting the data >and manipulating it, be my guest. Personally I don't have the >time or energy to replicate something that is actually written >better than I could. Same with Clipper years ago, I used a code >generator called Zachery. It wrote much tighter code than >I ever did. I was on their beta team for about 3 years. > >And no, you don't modify their code. They give you an abstraction >layer, a class that inherits the generated class, where you can >make changes that do not get erased each time you regenerate it. > >Robert > > >At 11:13 PM 9/10/2007, you wrote: >>Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 14:41:10 -0700 >>From: "Charlotte Foust" <cfoust at infostatsystems.com> >>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access to VB.Net >>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" >> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> >>Message-ID: >> <F55048AF7E974F429BB24597D7355EEA4BA9F9 at INFOSERVER04.infostat .local> >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >>Robert, >> >>I have to say that tools like Codesmith are very useful, but they're >>more useful if you understand what they're writing. They can also be >>very stupid (same like computers, natch) so you need to be able to >>modify the code intelligently, since one size rarely fits all, >>regardless of what the code writer thinks. LOL >> >>Charlotte Foust > > > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com