Catherine Blansett
catherine.blansett at infocentraldata.org
Fri Apr 18 07:04:26 CDT 2008
Thank you Dan, Well, it appears my problem might be solved. At least partially, I still get a copy of the db when I compact it (original + copy "db1," etc.) IT updated some of the service packs. I was using Jet 2.x. It appears to be some better. I noticed on system information regarding Access, Access is still using Jet 2.x but the ODBC is updated to Jet 4. So, it looks like there still may be work to do. All comments are welcomed. Thank you all for your help. Catherine -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 8:43 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] ldb Hi Catherine, For FE bloating, change the Database format to Access 2000. Then periodically decompile and compile that access file. If it contains temp tables, then you could also compact it. But you won't be able to do any of this while the ldb file exists because someone else is still logged in! HTH, Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Catherine Blansett Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 8:25 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] ldb Thanks Drew, I'll tell them that. I am not as worried about the backend. It's the frontend that I have the bloating problem with. I am still doing some development work on it and I cannot compact it while the ldb file is there. So, it keeps getting bigger. Catherine -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 10:13 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] ldb Two things. If compacting the backend is making it smaller, then you should look at what you are doing with data in the backend. A database does not automatically free up space when you delete data. There are several practices that can reduce the amount of 'bloat' to a database (growth that goes away when you compact the database). One biggie is if you are using 'temp' tables (where you are writing data that gets over written frequently), move such processes to the front end. The second thing, is your IT folks don't need to reboot the server. Just use Computer Management and 'close' all the open file connections to the Backend .mdb. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Catherine Blansett Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 7:30 AM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] ldb Hi all, I am doing some development work on a research project at a VA medical center. I have a portion of one drive ("U-drive") and access to a common drive ("K-drive") for research purposes. I developed a front-end database and a back-end database on the "U" drive and put the back-end on the k-drive. They function as they should. However, while I was developing, every time I compacted the databases a copy was created and named db1.....etc. The original version of the compacted db grew. So, I would rename the new version and delete the old (a bit tiring). When I work with these databases on my home computer (sans data of course) it works the way it should. This situation at work would be bothersome, but doable, if it weren't for the fact that, at some time (not sure when, but generally, others are complaining of a slow connection so suspect the system gets bogged down), it also creates a locked file that does not allow the databases to be compacted - "the db is being used by another", and then gives my ID number. Once these databases get locked, it becomes impossible to compact/rename/delete the databases and to change the name of excel files. So far, IT is a bit confused. They have rebooted the U drive and this released the locks and I was able compact, delete, or whatever. But then, in a couple of days, I am back to the same situation again. The databases still works just fine, but they are getting much too big. I have heard of this problem, but this is the first time I have encountered it. Any help would be most welcomed. Thanks in advance CB No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. 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