Dan Waters
dwaters at usinternet.com
Fri Aug 1 11:00:18 CDT 2008
Thanks William, That's the description I was looking for. Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 10:29 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access development on the wane? Dan ...I was forced to learn .net and asp.net because a good client wanted a web site redone and insisted I do it ...its a learning curve and I won't downplay that ...but once you're over the hump vs8 is in many ways as rad an environment as Access with the advantage of a compiled environment and so many 3rd party controls (lots free) that are just d&d and configure ...and there simply are almost no constraints on what or how you can do something ...and the code resources on the web are overwhelming ...in most cases its a matter of choosing which way you're going to implement something and not a matter of if or how ...and once you've learned one version, the move to another is surprisingly easy ...from web development to a desktop vb.net app was straight forward and yes, if you can do vb.net you can do c# ...really. ...of particular note is that so far my code behind development requirements are probably half of what they are in Access ...with Access I have vba modules behind everything, a lot of it quite involved ...in vs8, the .net framework and controls have so much more built into them that you can use by simply invoking them ...again, a learning curve, but I'm still a baby learning to crawl in .net and yet I'm producing apps that are fast, reliable, and NEVER corrupt ...and no freaking power user can screw with them ...ever! ...and they just install and run ...if the .net framework isn't there, you install it ...no more versioning problems, at least ime ...it just works ...amazing how simple that can be ...and the ties to Office are just as good if not better ...again, a learning curve but you get through it and wonder why it took so long. ...when I work in Access now (a2k3) I feel constrained and am always tempted to just rebuild it using vs and .net ...certainly not always the best answer but it reflects how I feel about the vs toolset and environment ...others mileage may certainly differ. :) William -------------------------------------------------- From: "Dan Waters" <dwaters at usinternet.com> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 8:35 AM To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access development on the wane? > Hi William, > > Could you elaborate on your experience with VS8 vs. Access as a FE > development environment? I've been wondering for quite a while if > switching > would be worthwhile, especially given that I sell the same system (with > modifications) to multiple customers. I've been planning to wait for the > next release of Access to see where it's going, and then decide. > > Thanks! > Dan > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 6:18 AM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access development on the wane? > > ...I've moved to focus on the .net development environment and that's what > I > > push to clients now ...there is still plenty of Access work but I'm not > starting anything new in it ...had not considered Access so much as > declining as just not being the best development environment any longer > ...once you have a few controls and a source code library, .net in VS8 is > just a lot better to work with than Access, especially A2k7. > > William > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at gmail.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 10:23 AM > To: <AccessD at databaseadvisors.com> > Subject: [AccessD] Access development on the wane? > >> Although I think Access is still healthy and will be around for a long >> time, >> readers are contacting me privately with concerns. Some of them aren't >> getting as much Access work as they use to. >> >> I'm just curious -- what are the contractors on this list experiencing -- >> have you noticed a slow down in Access development? >> >> Susan H. >> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com