[AccessD] From a reader

Susan Harkins ssharkins at gmail.com
Tue Aug 26 16:45:45 CDT 2008


RE: Know a DDE expert?Okay, this is from a reader -- on DDE and I haven't a 
clue... my first suggestion is to check the actual data, but you know how 
helpful that is...

Hi Susan,

The server at issue is a broker www.thinkorswim.com.
The following, placed in an Excel cell, works 100% of the time:

=TOS|BID!'.DIAHI' (TOS=server name, BID = datafield, .DIAHI=option symbol

aka OPRA symbol)

Trying to obtain the same data in Access VBA (below) works about 95% of the

time.

I've tried adding extra loops, putting a time delay in and it didn't fix it.

The broker (barely) supports the spreadsheet interface and won't help with

this code problem - I asked.

I'm using 3 DDE functions: DDEInitiate, DDERequest and DDETerminate.

I *think* doing it the Excel way is equivilent to doing it in VB with the

DDE function in a ControlSource property. But that has to be done at design

time only. The ControlSource property becomes read only.

I need to retrieve this data for dozens of symbols that are always changing.

The way the server works, if data is not available it returns a "N/A",

otherwise it returns a number.

I've been trying to solve this for several days and doing a lot of testing.

I might have data on 20 symbols I'm trying to retrieve and Access will

return data on 17. Excel will do all 20.

On the 3 that don't work in Access, Excel will sometimes return a "N/A", but

then a split second later change it to a valid number. The DDE

communication in Excel is continuous.

When Access fails, I tried making the loop try 100 or 200 times, but once it

fails, Access just can't retrieve the value.

Another interesting observation. If Access fails on a symbol, then I do it

in Excel and it succeeds, Access will then also succeed. It seems the data

is being cached(?) and then becomes available to Access.

I might be able to create a workaround if I understood better what is

happening. I don't really understand why Access fails for only certain

symbols but Excel works for all.

Brooks

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Susan Harkins [mailto:ssharkins at gmail.com]
  Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 3:07 PM
  To: brooks at rimesrv.net
  Subject: Re: Know a DDE expert?


  Dear Brooks;

      I don't know whether I can help you or not, but you can certainly ask.

  Regards,
  Susan Harkins



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    From: Brooks Rimes [mailto:brooks at rimesrv.net]
    Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 9:55 AM
    To: Jody Gilbert
    Subject: RE: Know a DDE expert?


    Hi Jody,

    DDE is the only data interface that my broker supports 
(www.thinkorswim.com).

    http://www.thinkorswim.com/notices/Release_083006.html

    The problem is that it work great in Excel but less reliably in Access 
with VBA code.  I have code and examples.

    Could I try writing to Susan?

    Thanks,

    Brooks
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Jody Gilbert [mailto:jody.gilbert at cnet.com]
      Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 9:03 AM
      To: Brooks Rimes
      Subject: RE: Know a DDE expert?


      Brooks,

      I checked with Susan Harkins, my Office/VBA expert, and she replied:



      Wow... that's a really old technology (Windows 3). You might want to 
ask if they're looking for information on the following -- or something 
else.

      Dynamic Data Exchange - (DDE, originally Dynamic Data Linking, DDL) A 
Microsoft Windows 3 hotlink protocol that allows application programs to 
communicate using a client-server model. Whenever the server (or 
"publisher") modifies part of a document which is being shared via DDE, one 
or more clients ("subscribers") are informed and include the modification in 
the copy of the data on which they are working.

      If it's the above, they can ask me, but I doubt I'll remember and I'm 
not running any Windows 3 systems to check. If they don't need DDE, but are 
just using an older term, anybody with some Office development experience 
can probably help.



      Are you working on an older system? I guess we need to know what 
you're working on before figuring out what or who to suggest!

      Best,
      j



      -----Original Message----- 
      From: Brooks Rimes [mailto:brooks at rimesrv.net]
      Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 6:21 PM
      To: Jody Gilbert
      Subject: RE: Know a DDE expert?

      Thank you, it's appreciated.

      Brooks

      -----Original Message----- 
      From: Jody Gilbert [mailto:jody.gilbert at cnet.com]
      Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 2:46 PM
      To: brooks at rimesrv.net
      Subject: RE: Know a DDE expert?



      Not off the top of my head... Let me check around.
      j

      -----Original Message----- 
      From: brooks at rimesrv.net [mailto:brooks at rimesrv.net]
      Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 3:03 PM
      To: Jody Gilbert
      Subject: Know a DDE expert?

      Hi Jody,

      Do you know anyone who might be able to answer an advanced DDE 
question?

      Thank you.

      Brooks Rimes
      Access MCP
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