David Emerson
newsgrps at dalyn.co.nz
Tue Feb 5 15:10:00 CST 2008
Max, This is the same with the company I contract to - their clients are typically small businesses. Ma and Pa have just gotten used to "that darn new fandangle fax machine thingy" and you want them to learn e-mail? :-) Incidentally, the company offers to email the accounts as well as fax. David At 6/02/2008, you wrote: >Max, > >I understand your comments about the fax being antiquated...In >actuality it was patended prior to the telephone...but... > >I work for a large company...and we have faxes coming in and out >from customers and contracters. Outside of the corporate world many >people still quote or document jobs with pen and paper. Or if a >customer gets a quote from a competitor...its been printed >out...other than mail...how would this customer get us a copy to >match? Its typically easier for the customer to fax something than >it is for them to scan and email. > > >Just some thoughts... > >Mark > > > From: max.wanadoo at gmail.com > > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > > Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 20:32:19 +0000 > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > > > > David, > > In that case there is no security difference!! Fax is not secure. > > > > Send them using Email and cGeep (www.cgeep.com). The recipient can > > unencrypted them and print them out (but why do they want a hard copy these > > day, I ask myself). > > Why does it need to be what is these days a antiquity (fax machine). > > You need to get them to have a culture change. this is the 21st Century. > > Fax machine went out 10-20 years ago apart from the luddites! > > My 2p worth, but worth stating to them, I think. The only faxes I seem to > > get these days are ones offering us Debt Collecting services or else ones > > offering cheap car leasing. If we lost our fax, we wouldn't even notice. > > > > I hope you take this in the intention which it is sent, not as a bleat! > > > > thanks > > > > > > Max > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David Emerson > > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 8:16 PM > > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > > > > Thanks for the suggestion, but as the faxes are client accounts, > the company > > doesn't want them floating around the internet. > > > > David > > > > At 6/02/2008, you wrote: > >>David, > >>As an alternative, there are companies out there who will send faxes > >>via an email. You send them an email, they turn it into a fax and send > >>it. they receive a fax for you, they turn it into an email and pass it on > > to you. > >>You get a tel number to use as a fax number. > >>I dont think it is very expensive. Certainly less than installing a > >>separate fax telephone line, rental etc. Also handles attachments. i > >>have often looked at this but as we have a fax built into our office > >>copier have not actually had a need for it. > >>Max > >> > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > >>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David > >>Emerson > >>Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 5:35 PM > >>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > >>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > >> > >>Thanks for both of these. I am still working through a solution with > >>the IT department. They don't want to put a modem on the servers to > >>restrict hackers dialing in. (They do have broadband on the server though). > >> > >>What they are looking at is using another computer which is on the > >>network and does have a fax modem. > >> > >>Will keep you all posted. > >> > >>David > >> > >>At 6/02/2008, you wrote: > >>>...Zetafax also works quite well without using Exchange ...just point > >>>to a table or query with an fax number source field and go ...I tried > >>>a number of fax "solutions" before going with Zeta ...once you get > >>>the phone number formats right, even the dumbest of users can use it > >>>without further support ...and every few months I get a call from > >>>their customer support asking if there are any problems they can help > >>>me with ...no sales pitch, just a short call ...and they actually > >>>know who to put you in touch with if you do have a how-do-I question. > >>> > >>>William > >>> > >>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>From: "Andy Lacey" > >>>To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" > >>> > >>>Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:31 AM > >>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > >>> > >>> > >>>>I use Zetafax from Equinox http://www.equisys.com/index.html . It's > >>>>not cheap but if you're an Outlook/Exchange user it's so simple > >>>>because all you do is send an "email" but to a fax number. > >>>>Zetafax picks it up and faxes it. > >>>> You do need a fax modem on the Exchange server though of course. > >>>> > >>>> -- Andy Lacey > >>>> http://www.minstersystems.co.uk > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>-----Original Message----- > >>>>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > >>>>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Barry G. > >>>>>Herring > >>>>>Sent: 05 February 2008 00:19 > >>>>>To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > >>>>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>I have a client that is interested in faxing also, so will be > >>>>>monitoring this thread to its conclusion. > >>>>> > >>>>>Barry > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>-----Original Message----- > >>>>>From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > >>>>>[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kath > >>>>>Pelletti > >>>>>Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 6:16 PM > >>>>>To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > >>>>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > >>>>> > >>>>>Great if you can keep us posted - the next app I am writing > >>>>>(2003) will also > >>>>> > >>>>>require faxing from the db. > >>>>> > >>>>>Kath > >>>>> > >>>>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>From: "David Emerson" > >>>>>To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" > >>>>> > >>>>>Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 11:01 AM > >>>>>Subject: Re: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks Kath, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I have that article and was going to use it, but then found that > >>>>>> the server that it would be run on doesn't have a modem or phone > >>>>>attached > >>>>>> to it :'( > >>>>>> > >>>>>> They do have a couple of printers that are available, and these > >>>>>> do have fax software but neither of them seem to enable > >>>>>external commands > >>>>>> from within other applications like WinFax does :-( > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Will keep everyone posted. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Regards > >>>>>> > >>>>>> David > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> At 5/02/2008, you wrote: > >>>>>>>David - There was an article in Woody's Access Watch about > >>>>>faxing from > >>>>>>>Access. I will forward the Part 2 of it to you offline - > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Kath > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>>>From: "David Emerson" > >>>>>>>To: > >>>>>>>Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 12:06 PM > >>>>>>>Subject: [AccessD] Faxing reports from Access > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>I have a client who want to fax two reports to their clients > >>>>>>>>(a cover sheet, and a second report). They have WinFax 10 > >>>>>>>>Pro installed but I am having problems getting technical > >>>>>information on > >>>>>>>>how to use it. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Does anyone have any code for sending Faxes using WinFax? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Regards > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> David Emerson > >>>>>>>> Dalyn Software Ltd > >>>>>>>> Wellington, New Zealand > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>> AccessD mailing list > >>>>>>>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >>>>>>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >>>>>>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>-- > >>>>>>>AccessD mailing list > >>>>>>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >>>>>>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >>>>>>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> AccessD mailing list > >>>>>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >>>>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >>>>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>-- > >>>>>AccessD mailing list > >>>>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >>>>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >>>>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >>>>> > >>>>>No virus found in this incoming message. > >>>>>Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >>>>>Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1257 - Release > >>>>>Date: 2/3/2008 > >>>>>5:49 PM > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>No virus found in this outgoing message. > >>>>>Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >>>>>Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1257 - Release > >>>>>Date: 2/3/2008 > >>>>>5:49 PM > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>-- > >>>>>AccessD mailing list > >>>>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >>>>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >>>>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> AccessD mailing list > >>>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >>>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >>>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >>> > >>> > >>>-- > >>>AccessD mailing list > >>>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >>>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >>>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >> > >>-- > >>AccessD mailing list > >>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >> > >>-- > >>AccessD mailing list > >>AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >>http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >>Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > -- > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > -- > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >_________________________________________________________________ >Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! >http://biggestloser.msn.com/ >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com