Darryl Collins
Darryl.Collins at coles.com.au
Mon Jul 14 22:43:55 CDT 2008
That approach has traditionally worked well for me, although just the other week I had to re-install XP pro onto an old laptop of mine and windows update kept crashing the entire OS which required a repair or reinstall. After a few days of this I gave up with MS update and I ended up getting XP SP3 and IE7.0 from a 3rd party site and installing them from the desktop - oddly enough, this didn't seem to require any validation checks (?). Now i have had no more problems and automatic updates are working fine. darryl. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Bob Gajewski Sent: Tuesday, 15 July 2008 1:32 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista Karen The only caveat that I can add is that when you run Windows Update after a clean install, *always* use the Express mode, repeatedly, until there are no more automatically-selected updates. Then - and only then - run Windows Update in the Custom mode to finish tweaking your system. That has always worked for me. Regards, Bob Gajewski -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darryl Collins Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 23:06 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista I suspect that is an absolute load of crap. I have loaded multiple different PC's over the years with the Same XP disk and not had any hassles. You can use old lic keys - you have paid for it and if the machine the OS is installed on dies, you can move that OS and key to another unit - if you have any bother a call to Microsoft usually sorts it out and they ensure that your key is valid, although I rarely have any bother, I have only ever had to call them once. I think you said you have wiped the disk clean, but if not, I would do a full disk wipe and reformat. Then boot off the XP disk from the BOIS (press F12 on a dell i think during boot). Windows should install from the CD directly. I would suggest having the beast wired into your internet connection so it can download stuff during the install. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Karen Rosenstiel Sent: Tuesday, 15 July 2008 12:14 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista OK, here's the latest. I called Dell tech support and explained the situation. I told him that I had 2 old XP Pro cd's. He immediately got all upset and told me I couldn't use them. I explained that the machines they came on were long gone. Then he told me that there was something on the cd that would prevent it from loading if it had already been used and registered on another machine. I told him point blank I didn't believe him. Especially since I've used these cd's on several machines for years as I upgraded. Just had to call MS and they gave me the code. The only good thing that came out of the conversation is that he did tell me that my machine would take XP -- I just had to buy another cd. This is really and truly annoying me. Regards, Karen Rosenstiel Seattle WA USA -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:53 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista I installed Win XP Pro on a PC with a blank HD and it installed fine, recognizing the HD as EIDE, rather than SATA. I found out later that you need to do a special installation procedure to get XP to recognize the HD as an SATA HD - way beyond the scope of this email. It turned out that for typical PC usage there is a negligible difference in performance between using an SATA HD as SATA or as EIDE. Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:36 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista There are also hardware changes that work in Vista and not XP, such as the new Serial ATA hard drives. Doing an install with Vista, and it flies right through, try to install with XP, and it won't even see the hard drive! Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:29 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista Depending on the machine you have, it may not be possible. Apparently some manufacturers don't provide XP drivers for their devices now that Vista is out. I have a friend who does this kind of thing for a living and he's had HP laptops that simply could not be downgraded to XP and work. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Karen Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 7:09 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista I am fed up with Vista Ultimate on my laptop. I want to downgrade to XP Pro and I have 2 bootable CDs with it. However, my damn laptop won't let either one boot. It starts and then I get the Blue Screen of Death with the following (useless) message: STOP: 0x0000007E (0xC0000005, 0xF748E0BF, 0xF78DA208, 0xF78D9F08) Pci.sys - Address F748E0BF base at F7487000, Datestamp 3b7d855c How do I format the damn hard drive with Vista? 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