Andy Lacey
andy at minstersystems.co.uk
Wed Jul 16 01:58:05 CDT 2008
Hey guys Gary asked nicely many hours ago that this thread be moved to the AccessD Tech list where it belongs. -- Andy Lacey http://www.minstersystems.co.uk >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of >Karen Rosenstiel >Sent: 16 July 2008 04:50 >To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista > > >Thanks Jim. After last night's frustration, tonight I am >feeling pretty smart. I just installed Horny Hoptoad (or >whatever the current Ubuntu version is ;-))) ) and then I >installed xampp with PHP (not PCP -- I work for a hospital and >probably have doctors on the brain!), MySQL and phpMyAdmin. >Then I secured them and I have my test box all ready for a new >web project. > >I am going to keep everyone's email advice because eventually >I will probably want XP Pro back on this box. But I am happy >with this Ubuntu set up. Boy it has gotten so much easier! >Practically as easy as Windows is to install, which, for all >my gripes, really IS usually an easy no-brainer to install. >Ubuntu has picked my main Windows box on the network with NO >tweaking of Samba. I think it picked up my network laser >printer too. Hot damn! > >This is the best Linux install I've ever done. I am impressed. >But since my knowledge of Linux is limited, I am easily impressed. > >Anyway....we had better close out this thread as the >moderator has requested. > >Thanks all of you, very much. > > >Regards, > >Karen Rosenstiel >Seattle WA USA > >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence >Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 8:42 PM >To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'; >dba-tech-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista > >Hi Karen: > >Just one small note to start; What is PCP/MySQL... is this >some new toxic programming language? > >I sent of a note to Hans, my son-in-law about your problems >with Vista and here is his response: > ><comment> >Yep. Downgrading from Vista to XP with SATA drives is a pain >in the backside. I did it myself as well for one of our work >PC's. It does indeed require a floppy drive with the drivers, >but fortunately I had a number of spare floppy drives lying >about which I could throw in for the installation process. >'Course, if you happen to have a very fancy server like some >of the ones I play with, the bios can mount a virtual floppy >drive. ;) The headache doesn't end there though, as in my >case, the HP I was downgrading Vista to XP on did not provide >XP drivers on their support site for many of the components on >the PC (motherboard, integrated sound board, etc). It meant >identifying all these components manually and tracking down >the drivers manually. Sigh. > >Going the Ubuntu route is probably wise. You can then install >XP on some virtual machine, like Parallels ($$$), VMWare ($$$) >or Virtual Box (Free for non-commercial use). VirtualBox is >pretty good now days, so I'd recommend it for general use. You >might get a few headaches trying anything fancy like mounting >your iPod via USB. And you don't get 3D accelerated graphics, >which VMWare can do. I was lucky to sign up for a VMWare >Fusion beta test, so I got VMWare for free for my MacBook and >I like it. </comment> > >If you are having any other problems with your new environment >just send along a comment. > >HTH >Jim > >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of >Karen Rosenstiel >Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:26 PM >To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista > >Guess what? That's exactly what I did. > >After the first call with that Dell idiot, I did some >research. Sure enough, if you get a box with Vista Business or >Ultimate pre-installed, you can downgrad to XP. So I called >Dell back and told them that. This time they flat refused to help me. > >So I called MS. Well, credit where credit is due! After MS >verified my XP cd was a legitimate retail purchase, I got a >tech guy from New Delhi (I asked >him) who was intelligent, efficient and helpful. Spoke English >pretty well too. But basically what it came down to was some >pci drivers. He apologized profusely but referred me back to >Dell for assistance in disabling the drivers. > >So I said the hell with it and installed Ubuntu. I had a DVD >with 10 full distros, but I do like Ubuntu/Kubuntu the best. >It's a little cranky on my box -- no network yet -- but did a >good job of picking up most of the hardware. Tomorrow I will >install XAMPP, an easy installer for Apache, MySQL, PCP and >Perl. Very painless. Then I can use this box to learn >PCP/MySQL. I have a big project I volunteered for to redo >someone else's web site -- a pretty site but gawdawful code. > >For right now, it's bed time. > >Thanks for all the support > >Regards, > >Karen Rosenstiel >Seattle WA USA > >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence >Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 2:31 PM >To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista > >Karen: > >If the worse comes to the worse you can always switch to >Ububtu Linux (easier than XP/Vista apparently) and install >Wine or Parallel so you can run some of your MS apps. (The >latest versions of Linux have no issues with SATA drives). > >Jim > >-----Original Message----- >From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of >krosenstiel at comcast.net >Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:15 AM >To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista > >I do have a USB floppy. Got it when I got the laptop just for >such current episodes. > >-- >Karen Rosenstiel >Seattle WA USA > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- >From: "Edward S Zuris" <edzedz at comcast.net> >> >> You can buy a floppy hooked to a USB. >> >> I have used those in the past on Laptops with no floppy drive. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com]On Behalf Of Charlotte >> Foust >> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:29 AM >> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving >> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista >> >> >> I hope you don't really mean floppy disk, John. My laptop doesn't >> have floppy drives and neither do any of the others I've seen. >> >> Charlotte Foust >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of >John Bartow >> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:20 AM >> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' >> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Downgrading Vista >> >> If you have either SCSI or SATA drives you can install XP but while >> doing so you must watch for the (initial blue) screen that >asks you to >> press F6 for additional drivers (or something to that effect). You >> then need to have those drivers ready on a floppy disk. >> >> HTH >> John B. >> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG. >Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1552 - Release >Date: 7/14/2008 6:28 PM > > >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG. >Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1552 - Release >Date: 7/14/2008 6:28 PM > > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG. >Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.11/1554 - Release >Date: 7/15/2008 6:03 PM > > >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG. >Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.11/1554 - Release >Date: 7/15/2008 6:03 PM > > >-- >AccessD mailing list >AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >