Dan Waters
dwaters at usinternet.com
Thu Jul 31 14:21:03 CDT 2008
Well . . . . , Access 2007 was the largest change between revisions that Access has seen. I read that the reason for this was that the Access group within MS had been taken out from under the SQL Server group. In reading between the lines, the SQL Server group believed that without Access their market would be larger, and so they minimized support internally and also had their strong marketing arm denigrate Access whenever they had a chance. This often 'stuck' on IT departments who often want the latest, best, etc. Thus Access wasn't given the respect it does deserve, and we all know how IT folks often feel about using Access. I do believe that developers who know both SQL Server and Access can make a pretty clear recommendation as to which should be used in a specific situation. Now if we could just get the SQL Server group to stay in their own pond, Access would have clear sailing! So, I believe that the tide turned a few years ago, symbolized by the release of Access 2007. At least I'm hopeful . . . :-) Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 1:23 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access development on the wane? >>This isn't what MS wants. Well, at least it isn't what they SAY they want. From a developer's perspective, I'd say the handwriting has been on the wall in very large letters for years. MS has never given Access any respect as a development tool themselves, just patted the developers on the head with a "bless your hearts" attitude and kept pitching the product to end users and trying to steer developers to sexier development products with a higher MS profit margin and to SQL Server for everything. IMO they've been in total denial about the need for basic relational understanding because they've been competing with products that appealed to the DYI end user who wouldn't know relational if it bit him, basically the same market as for Excel but with a prettier interface. They've shot themselves in the foot and Access, much as we might love it, is going to continue to compete with FileMaker, et al for the foreseeable future. I think it will continue to be diminished in importance and real meat, regardless of what MS may promise. Charlotte Foust -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Dan Waters Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 10:50 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access development on the wane? This isn't what MS wants. VBA will be used in Access 14. And they seem to be trying hard to make significant improvements from a typical user perspective. Dan -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Susan Harkins Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:23 AM To: AccessD at databaseadvisors.com Subject: [AccessD] Access development on the wane? Although I think Access is still healthy and will be around for a long time, readers are contacting me privately with concerns. Some of them aren't getting as much Access work as they use to. I'm just curious -- what are the contractors on this list experiencing -- have you noticed a slow down in Access development? Susan H. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com