[AccessD] OT: Survey

Gary Kjos garykjos at gmail.com
Tue Nov 18 10:21:57 CST 2008


Hi Gustav,

No we are strictly A2003 - along with a few A2002 and a few A2000
holdouts - here at work. 90% of my results are small summary files.
Only occaisionally do people want "detail" and even then a lot of the
time they really want summary data that they think of as detail. But
you are entirely correct in that the users don't think of how data
relates and can be joined together. It's my reason for being here
<grin>

GK

On 11/18/08, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> Hi Gary
>
> Yes, I recognise only too well that mode of reaction.
>
> It is probably not Access as such they are afraid of, rather the relational database with tables here and there, as this - which we as developers and db geeks quickly forget - requires very structured thinking, planning, and operating.
> To break down this barrier is one of the goals with the UI design, ribbon and wizards of A2007. Have you ever had the opportunity to provide this (A2007) to such a user? I wonder what would happen?
>
> /gustav
>
>
> >>> garykjos at gmail.com 18-11-2008 16:23 >>>
> Hi Gustav,
>
> Users are AFRAID of Access though. So they use what they are
> comfortable with. And that is Excel. Whether it's the right tool or
> not. When you are holding a hammer everything looks like a nail. Don't
> get me wrong, it's not an every day thing, but it does happen with
> some regularity too.
>
> GK
>
> On 11/18/08, Gustav Brock <Gustav at cactus.dk> wrote:
> > Hi Gary
> >
> > Why? Excel is not to be used as a database (according to MS - as the main argument for pushing Access to users of Excel).
> >
> > /gustav
> >
> >
> > >>> garykjos at gmail.com 17-11-2008 23:07 >>>
> > You can have 1 million rows in an Excel 2007 file verses approx 65K in
> > an Excel 2003 file.
> >
> > That alone would make me want it if my company allowed it.
> >
> > GK
> >
> > On 11/17/08, Stuart McLachlan <stuart at lexacorp.com.pg> wrote:
> > > So tell me, what could I do in Office 2007 that I can't do with 2003?
> > >
> > > Can anyone give me a compelling reason to upgrade?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 17 Nov 2008 at 9:55, Susan Harkins wrote:
> > >
> > > > It does appear that people are slow to upgrade this time -- more so than any
> > > > other that I can remember.
> > > >
> > > > Susan H.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Not ignoring you.. just only use A2007 at home on a very limited
> > > > > basis. We still ise 2003 version at work with no plan to move..
>
>
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