Max Wanadoo
max.wanadoo at gmail.com
Sun Oct 5 18:08:50 CDT 2008
Nice one Shamil. > where the sides do not come to a common point of view still they learn and use a lot from each other Wish that all took the same point of view. We might not have lost the great John (think what you like, but I loved his posting. Max -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Shamil Salakhetdinov Sent: 05 October 2008 19:47 To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Visual Basic 2008 Express & VB.NET <<< ...love the StackOverflow site ... went right into my favorites ...thanks :) >>> My pleasure! :) That's what is good in discussions where the sides do not come to a common point of view still they learn and use a lot from each other - duality, a hidden(?) driving force, seems to be everywhere in this world... (Sorry for my getting a bit philosophical this Sunday's evening here...) Thank you, -- Shamil P.S. Listening to "Cabaret" by Liza Minnelli right now :)... -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 12:45 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Visual Basic 2008 Express & VB.NET ...we'll agree to disagree :) ...in the time it takes for me to find the author's solution in a book, assuming its even there, I can find dozens of valid approaches on the web along with comments from people who have used them for better or worse ...I've not opened any tech book in ages with the single exception of Susan/Martin's Access to SQL Server which I have tagged with dozens of yellow stickies ...other wise, its the web for me. ...I think the real downturn for me was when the book stores stopped carrying a wide variety of them ...I used to go to Books-a-Million while the family went store hopping ...I could actually open the book and read it to see if it was at my level, presented like I like, and actually had useful examples ...I'd buy any book that passed that test ...now its Amazon or e-bay and I just don't even bother any more. ...love the StackOverflow site ...went right into my favorites ...thanks :) William "In politics, there are some candidates who use change to promote their careers, and then there are those, like John McCain, who use their careers to promote change." Gov. Palin -------------------------------------------------- From: "Shamil Salakhetdinov" <shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru> Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 12:28 PM To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Visual Basic 2008 Express & VB.NET > William, > > I do not see this book available for free, code only, do you? > > I'm gladly paying for the books like Marco's one as they pay themselves > manifold and very quickly... > > These books have well systemized and "condensed" stuff, supplied with > working real life apps unlike Internet where it's often not easy (very > time > consuming) to find needed information, and it's almost not possible at all > to get so well systemized and ready to use for real life software > development stuff as Marco's book: for big advanced projects I mean, > conceptual yet very useful and applicable and proven in real life software > development business solutions I mean... > > Of course Internet is full of cookbook-style solutions/advises but one > still > have to have good experience and intuition to apply them in this or that > case, and often a lot of time to filter-out "garbage" stuff... > > BTW, have you heard about this project/initiative? > > "Stack Overflow Launches" > http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2008/09/15.html and > http://blog.stackoverflow.com/ > > from Joel Spolsky? > > It looks promising but I'd think it would never be a substitute for good > books as Marco Bellinaso's one ... > > Thank you. > > -- > Shamil > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman > Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 2:54 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Visual Basic 2008 Express & VB.NET > > ...you make my point for me Shamil ...the book is 3 years old now and > everything is available on-line for free ...plus lots of updates, > improvements, errors, and user comments > > http://www.codeplex.com/TheBeerHouse > > ...why pay Amazon? ...why a book? ...although I'll allow that having a > 12gig > > internet link probably makes it easier for me than you :) > > ...ps ...I visit his blog sometimes ...the source code is there as well > but > not as well maintained as the codeplex source. > > William > "In politics, there are some candidates who use change to promote their > careers, and then there are those, like John McCain, who use their careers > to promote change." 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