[AccessD] Moderator Message

...it was cost Max ...dial-up users were complaining about non-access 
material doubling and tripling their bills.

...but are per minute charges still the norm in internet dial-up access 
today?

William

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From: "Max Wanadoo" <max.wanadoo at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 1:55 PM
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Moderator Message

> Why is dial up an issue?
> I am on mobile which  is slower than dial up.  Unless you are referring to
> costs, in which case dial up probably would be a factor.
> Whilst holding my hands up to the crime of getting carried away in the OT
> discussion, I have two points of view.
>
> One is that I do enjoy the camaraderie that exists which in turn engenders
> the spirit of helping and assistance to others and from this aspect I am
> happy for ANYTHING which is IT related but not for stuff outside of IT - 
> OT
> List is the place for that.
>
> The second is that if I were a NEWBIE looking to join a well informed list 
> I
> *might* be put off by all the non-Access chatter.  Particularly as we are
> without a decent Search Engine for postings.
>
> I can see both sides of the fence, so to speak.  Sitting here is putting
> splinters up my bum.
>
> Even when stuff appears to be non-Access, it often exists hand in hand 
> with
> Access and other IT software deployment.  A case in point was all the 
> stuff
> over Virtual PCs and Security - all of which had a direct and real bearing
> on my deployment of my Access FE and BE to make it more secure.  The stuff
> over .Net etc is similarly influencing my Access stuff.
>
> Personally, I would say
>
> 1. Non-IT goes to OT.
> 2. Any IT related matters should be allowed because many of them are short
> lived.  But any Moderator can ask for it to be taken to dba-tech if it 
> looks
> like running.  Listers should just honour the request without argument and
> move it over - as Lambert said, it is so easy to merge email lists at 
> client
> level it become almost transparent.
> 3. Encourage more to join to keep Access which is fore-front in RAD as per
> Stuart's comment on his web site.
>
> Max
>
> Enough argument - off to the pub.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Bryan 
> Carbonnell
> Sent: 05 August 2009 18:27
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Moderator Message
>
> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:55 PM, William
> Hindman<wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com> wrote:
>
>> ...as one of those responsible for initially splitting the lists, I
> remember
>> that bandwidth was a major driver since so many of our members were still
> on
>> dial up ...splitting the lists allowed them to get only the Access 
>> related
>> posts without having to dl the rest over 56kb connections.
>>
>> ...that is no longer the case
>
> Maybe it is the case. Maybe not, I don't know.
>
> What I do know is there are still some of our more frequent
> contributors that are still on dial-up.
>
>
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