Jim Dettman
jimdettman at verizon.net
Thu Aug 6 13:52:05 CDT 2009
The other major issue is that Microsoft has never fixed the environment issues with Access. It's difficult at best to have multiple versions co-exist and VBA references are always a problem. I'm struggling right now with a client because of report bugs in 2003, so we installed 2000. Now the new release of their software won't run on anything but 2003 and we can't get the two to play nice on the same machine. Given that and the fact that many products now have many of Access capabilities and then some, the lower end niche that Access filled is certainly shrinking. They also have dumped many of the developer features, such as ADP's, Replication, and User Level Security. However they keep adding end-user type features like the ribbon, integration with SharePoint, and new macro capabilities. It's no wonder most IT shops considers Access a end user toy. Furthering that along is the "developers" that don't have a clue how to use it. Just yesterday, I bumped into someone on Expert's Exchange that was developing a "one-off" app that was having performance issues. He acknowledged that he was a beginner at database design. But rather then deal with the real issues, he just chopped features out hoping for the best. And at the end of the thread, he mentioned that this app was going to be used by up to 1,000 financial advisors. Great impression that app will make I'm sure :( Jim. -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Perry L Harold Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 12:45 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Moderator Message Maybe between ribbons and offering .net packages for free M$ has succeeded in killing off any serious interest in Access for development. Perry -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 6:29 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] Moderator Message > Most of the question are pretty involved these days and require more than a simple "Click on this" answer. Yes, but that simply implies we are not attracting newbies any more. John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com Max Wanadoo wrote: > One must never lose sight of the fact that the longer you are on this > (and others similar) sites, the more you learn and ipso facto the less > questions you will be asking. > > The basic stuff that I was being asked 10 years or so ago are never > posted here (or in Access-List) - in a sense, it means that we are > achieving what we set out to do. > > Most of the question are pretty involved these days and require more > than a simple "Click on this" answer. > > Max > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert > Sent: 05 August 2009 22:47 > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Moderator Message > > Perspective from a relative newb, and hobby-time developer. (My career > is mainly in the service industry (appliance, HVAC, etc...)) > > I believe I'm on the fairly newbie side of this list (maybe 3-4 > years), and I agree with JC. I can remember a day when I could ask a > question and would be guaranteed at least 3-5 different perspective on > the issue, now.. I'm lucky to even get.... "I don't know".. I now find > more solutions outside of AccessD then In, and I hate that because I > learned SO MUCH for many of you guys.... I know it's sounds like a "what can I get" or "Me Me Me" > statement, but I don't know how else to put it... it's just different now... > > What's the answer...? I have no idea, but I hope something changes... > > > PS: I can tell you with the huge lack of interested in Access 2007 > (and soon new version), I don't suspect things to get any better.... > > WBR > Robert -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com