[AccessD] AccessD Digest, Vol 78, Issue 55

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... Now, if Silverlight apps are fully searchable by search engines, ...
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Hi Ken,

MS will make it happen using Bing I guess.

Did you guys see Bing maps already? - http://www.bing.com/maps/ 

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Shamil

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Kenneth Ismert
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 9:45 PM
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] AccessD Digest, Vol 78, Issue 55

jwcolby

> Notice that you won't actually GET any more until two revisions down the
> road, at which point they will have canned this technology and introduced
> Waterfall version1, which will be incompatible with all past offerings.
>

At some point, they have to ditch the VBA-based apps. This may be a first
step.

But, a Silverlight-based web approach is risky, too. Silverlight market
penetration is nowhere near the Flash/Flex level. (See
http://www.statowl.com/silverlight.php).

And, the number of Flash/Flex web apps is vanishingly small compared to
plain standards-based HTML/CSS/Javascript, because their proprietary
approach renders their content invisible to search engines.

Now, if Silverlight apps are fully searchable by search engines, that would
be a real selling-point. But if they aren't, it will be a tough, tough sell
(no one wants to open an e-commerce site that is completely invisible to
search engines).

In short, Microsoft will have to offer something compelling here, or it will
become a historical footnote, like the failed DAP feature.

-Ken



> Kenneth Ismert wrote:
>
>> Some responses:
>>
>> Jennifer Gross:
>>
>>  It'll be a wizard - 3 clicks and you've got a website - Like Data Access
>>> Pages right ;)
>>>
>>
>>
>> I agree -- it will be similar to DAP, but with a Silverlight front-end.
>> DAP
>> for Silverlight (let's call it "Dapplelight")  will offer a choice of
>> 'canned' form types: edit record, datasheet etc., from which you can
>> cobble
>> together a pretty basic but functional Silverlight app. You'll get at
>> least
>> one very pretty skin, with promises for more. It will have built-in
>> concurrency limitations, so as not to threaten the ASP.NET enterprise web
>> app market. Oh, and you can probably use these Dapplelight forms directly
>> in
>> your Access app, as well, for the same look over the internet as on your
>> desktop.
>>
>> Max Wanadoo:
>>
>>  Say it in VBA, they are not very used to that either.
>>>
>>>
>> Actually, this feature is a logical point for Microsoft to finally start
>> the
>> break with VBA in Access. I will bet that Dapplelight will not be
>> extensible
>> using VBA -- it will only support the "improved" macros out of the box.
>> But,
>> Dapplelight will run on top of .NET, and serious programmers will be able
>> to
>> extend it using a .NET toolkit. This make sense, because Silverlight runs
>> on
>> top of .NET, too.
>>
>> In fact, the new macro actions may also be extensible through .NET, which
>> would then be pitched as the best way forward to provide functionality to
>> the Access masses. They are adding If..Then..Else structures to macros;
if
>> they add Try...Catch and looping constructs, they will have a very
simple,
>> approachable language. This would give a fairly flexible app-building
>> capability to the masses, without threatening the .NET programming
>> priesthood.
>>
>> Further, this could well provide a whole new market of third-party
>> Dapplelight forms, tools, and macro extensions, which could breath some
>> fresh air into the Access app market.
>>
>> Mark Simms:
>>
>>  I just read somewhere that IE8 supports ONLY Silverlight and that may
>>> continue into IE9.
>>> Microsoft wants users to use THEIR browser for THEIR web apps.
>>>
>>>
>> I'd like to see your source -- it's always interesting to see what
>> Microsoft
>> has in mind for their browsers.
>>
>> -Ken
>>

 

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