jwcolby
jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com
Wed Feb 11 12:56:41 CST 2009
In my system the CASS portion fills in the zip 4 as it returns the addresses. To my knowledge the CASS system database from the USPS has a zip 4 for EVERY valid address in the CASS system. IOW, if it passes CASS, it comes back with a valid zip4. John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com William Hindman wrote: > JC > > ...to my utter chagrin, I already know far too much about CASS and NCOA > ...the client uses a mailing house that validates his data against the US > post office's data and rejects anything that doesn't match ...there is an > additional service which we used once for address correction based upon NCOA > data but basically what we got was a list of rejections without any data on > WHY they were rejected ...with a paltry few actual updates ...he now does > this on a quarterly basis against his entire address list. > > ...but that is only the reason the +4 has become a problem, not a solution > to it ...as I noted, the problem is that most zips are still 5 digit but the > number of +4 zips is increasing rapidly and the US postal service is now > rejecting addresses that it, in its indomitable wisdom, thinks should have > the +4 ...but I know of no way to know this before the data is actually > rejected by them ...thus I can't force an initial +4 data entry because in > most cases it doesn't yet exist ...so I'm dependent upon the data entry > people actually entering the +4 data entry, when its available, in a > separate field AFTER they've used the Geo cbo to select the right geo record > ...and they just are not doing it consistently. > > ...any ideas besides colbyizing them all would be appreciated :) > > William > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "jwcolby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:50 PM > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Zip+4? > >> William, >> >> Correctly handling the postal services requirements is a non-trivial task. >> The process is called >> CASS and NCOA. CASS stands for Coding Accuracy Support System. >> >> http://www.nextmark.com/glossary/definition.jsp?glossaryTermId=a0800000000EqQrAAK >> >> What is essentially does is to verify the addresses against USPS supplied >> database (which changes >> quarterly), and if a given address passes CASS it means that the address >> represents an actual >> deliverable address. >> >> NCOA stands for National Change of Address, and it has its own >> requirements but in general the USPS >> wants all addresses CASSed and NCOAed no more than 90 days before use to >> qualify for bulk mail >> discounts and such. >> >> NCOA states that a specific person moved (no longer lives at the previous >> address) and may / may not >> supply the current address. NCOA is a much more nebulous thing than CASS >> simply because people may >> or may not live at an address at all, may have moved and not filed a COA, >> may have lived there but >> moved years ago etc. >> >> I am heavily involved in CASS / NCOA, and in fact I am able to provide >> such processing if desired. >> >> John W. Colby >> www.ColbyConsulting.com >> >> >> William Hindman wrote: >>> Group >>> >>> I use a separate tblGeo table to manage >>> city/state/post/country/region/timezone/dst/lat/long data with an fk join >>> on >>> tblOrgAddress. >>> This is presented as an enforced combo with any new org address entry, >>> thus >>> ensuring that only valid entries are allowed for that data. >>> When US zip codes were only 5 digits, this worked quite well ...but the >>> growing number of +4 zips is beginning to grow out of control ...adding >>> the >>> +4 means an additional 10k entries per US post code are possible ...which >>> would drive the db to its knees. >>> >>> So I've separated out the +4 and isolated them in the tblOrgAddress to >>> limit >>> the impact on lookups and just concatenate them when I assemble >>> addresses. >>> This is of course time and code intensive in its own right but limited to >>> only those times when a full mailing address is required. >>> >>> The problem comes in requiring data entry people to enter the +4 separate >>> from the post code ...it just isn't getting done ...and the client is now >>> seeing address rejections from the postal service bulk mailing because >>> the >>> +4 is missing. >>> >>> Question is, does anyone have a better way of handling the zip+4 issue? >>> >>> William >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >