jwcolby
jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com
Sat Feb 21 00:20:01 CST 2009
LOL. Nothing like a religious war to get the blood pumping. ;) John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com William Hindman wrote: > ...yikes! ...the JIT tab war ...then the bound/unbound war ...and now you > want to start another one? > ...static data goes in the fe ...the cache has better uses ...imnsho :) > > William > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "jwcolby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> > Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 4:01 PM > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Find First in an Array? > >> Rocky, >> >> I was not addressing anything other than the "assumption" that was >> expressed that certain tables >> "would be in the FE". If you as the owner / developer want them there >> that is all that needs to be >> said. >> >> In MY systems I never place such tables in the FE. If I were to >> "purchase" or other be placed in >> charge of your systems, I would move the tables to the BE. >> >> Remember though that I DO cache my "rarely modified / often used" data so >> it does not matter that it >> is on in a BE on the server. It will cross the wire only once per form >> per user. Thereafter it >> will almost certainly be as fast or faster than a local FE table. >> >> To address your question: >> >>> In my case, where the 'data' is really static, and is needed by each >>> user, wouldn't the design be >> better with the language tables in the FE? >> >> This is one of those things that is purely opinion, and often near >> religious in conviction, and I do >> not want to start a religious war. Some people wholeheartedly believe in >> placing such things in the >> FE. I wholeheartedly believe otherwise. >> >> Often a belief is created in the distant past when we make a decision of >> some sort that sways the >> argument in one direction or the other. We often then stop "thinking" >> about it and simply "believe" >> it. If enough time passes, we may completely lose track of why we even >> believe something. >> >> In this case I would guess that those who place such tables in the FE have >> either never thought of >> or considered caching it, or considered and rejected it. In those cases >> having it in the FE solves >> a speed problem. Now these people have "solved" their speed problem and >> the "reason" fades into a >> belief. >> >> I started using data caches some time ago and, while I never used data >> tables in the FE even before >> that, having the cache simply makes the FE Data Tables concept a >> non-starter. In all other respects >> (IMHO) having data in a BE is the accepted practice. Since my caches >> solve my speed issues I truly >> do not need them in the FE. >> >> John W. Colby >> www.ColbyConsulting.com >> >> >> Rocky Smolin at Beach Access Software wrote: >>> " I am not going to get into the "this is a local table so it goes in the >>> FE... oh damn, now I gotta go update the data in 5 different FEs". BEs >>> are >>> for data (in my world)." >>> >>> In my case, where the 'data' is really static, and is needed by each >>> user, >>> wouldn't the design be better with the language tables in the FE? >>> >>> >>> Rocky Smolin >>> Beach Access Software >>> 858-259-4334 >>> www.e-z-mrp.com >>> www.bchacc.com >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >