Stuart McLachlan
stuart at lexacorp.com.pg
Sat Feb 28 17:30:37 CST 2009
strTemp = Replace(strWilliamComments, "62", "60") strTemp = Replace(strTemp,"15","16") strTemp = Replace(strTemp, ""building our home"","getting a new joint venture business off the ground") strStuartComments = strTemp :-) -- Stuart On 28 Feb 2009 at 15:25, William Hindman wrote: > Shamil > > "May I ask you all why Gustav and myself can't get a group of 5 team > members?" > > ...I'm 62 yo and have worked as a single developer for the past 15 years > ...SCRUM is focused on something I'm very unlikely to ever use ...and > fortunately, I'm still so loaded down between development work and building > our home that I simply have no time available for anything that I don't > foresee using myself ...I do wish I was 20 years younger and could find the > time and energy to learn something new from people like you and gustav just > for the hell of it ...but I'm not and that's the long and short of it. > > William > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Salakhetdinov Shamil" <mcp2004 at mail.ru> > Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 2:48 PM > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > Subject: Re: [AccessD]Scrum (was: Find First in an Array? ...) > > > > > Hi Gustav, > > > > Thank you for registering. > > > > Yes, I agree that at this moment 5 users limitations seems of no > > importance. > > > > Anybody else wanted to join me and Gustav to try MS Access Northwind to > > .NET Winforms Northwind conversion project? > > Project is currently planned to be started at 9th of March 2009, and is > > expected to be finished in max 1 man month of common efforts. > > Conversion is planned to be done using SCRUM/agile development methology. > > It will be public open source project with project progress information > > and final converted application published on AccessD. > > This is planned to be as simple as possible project - the only knowledge > > of VS2008 that would be needed at the beginning is how to design .NET > > WinForms by dragginbg and dropping controls and settings some properties. > > And this development activity is simple - my seven years old kid started > > to "design" WinForms after 2 minutes of my introduction, and he even > > "programmed" buttons' click events reaction etc. Really easy and very much > > alike to the usual MS Access forms development. > > > > .NET ReportViewer Control reports' design experience would be a plus but > > not necessary as it's also rather straightforward to get acquanted with > > for experienced developers whatever else Report Designer they used > > before... > > > > Folks, if you can't join this project because you're very busy maybe you > > can at least participate in the "planning poker game"? There is a free > > online tool to play it: http://www.planningpoker.com/ > > > > May I ask yuu all why Gustav and myself can't get a group of 5 team > > members? > > > > If you do not want to answer on this question here please send me private > > e-mails with your reasons - just one most important reason or several, and > > I will collect them and publish here anonymously. And I can make an > > anonymous online poll based on that reasons to vote and see what are main > > reasons, which stop such projects. Please write and send ANY reasons which > > stop you from participating in this discussion/project. > > > > I will wait for your votes/e-mails till next Wednesday as it's weekend now > > and not all listers work over weekend. I do hope somebody will join us > > during the next week. > > > > In the meantime I will be preparing infrastructure, and some simple tools > > to patially automate this conversion, and I will have also to work for my > > customers of course... > > > > Thank you. > > > > -- > > Shamil > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: "Gustav Brock" <Gustav at cactus.dk> > > To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > > Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:43:11 +0100 > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scrum (was: Find First in an Array? ...) > > > >> Hi Shamil > >> > >> OK, I signed up. > >> > >> As for the software, the TargetProcess "community edition" will only do > >> be free for 5 licenses. If more users, it is USD 249 for each and every > >> user: > >> > >> Q. What if I need 6 users pack? > >> In this case it will be required to purchase 6 full licenses. Community > >> Edition allows to have 5 licenses, if you need more, you have to migrate > >> to On-Site or On-Demand Full Edition. > >> > >> However, at this moment this limitation seems of no importance. > >> > >> /gustav > >> > >> > >> >>> mcp2004 at mail.ru 28-02-2009 15:43 >>> > >> > >> Hi Gustav and Fellow Listers, > >> > >> Yes, the response on my proposal is a bit discouraging but I'm continuing > >> preparation here for the conversion project of MS Access NorthWind sample > >> app to .NET WinForms. > >> > >> Yes, Gustav, we can try to do it just with you but SCRUM/agile process > >> needs a little bit more team members - at least 4-5: if doing this > >> project by using just your and mine efforts it can be done agile way but > >> not SCRUM, and it will take more time, and what is most important it will > >> not show advantages of working as a team - and the advantages in this > >> case is not only joining the efforts and skills - the main advantage is > >> to experience how teamwork influences one's own views and insights - and > >> it does influence then very effectively - I mean that - I have just > >> experienced that during CSM course in Helsinki. Even participating for > >> years in great dicussion lists as this AccessD one do not change one's > >> stereotypes and (conservative) ways of thinking as SCRUM/agile teamwork > >> does... > >> > >> I plan to keep preparing SCRUM/agile infrastructure for the Northwind > >> conversion project within the next week - in my plans is to setup DNN > >> site - first step is done: > >> > >> http://shamils-4.hosting.parking.ru/dnn49 > >> > >> nothing except registration there yet but it's up&running - I "just" need > >> to add some DNN modules - do not know how to do that yet - plan to do > >> that within the next week - I can keep posting SCRUM related info on this > >> site as well as we can have wiki board on it to have "daily stand-up > >> meetings" as well as I can setup newlist on it to have everybody > >> registered and subscribed to this newlist informed on what is happening. > >> Of course it will be forwarded here - the best woudl be to have separate > >> SCRUM%Access-D list but it's probably too early? > >> > >> I'm also evaluating this software > >> > >> http://www.targetprocess.com/Product.aspx > >> > >> to have our project tasks and their completion progress status easily > >> manageable and viewvable by every team member. I also expect (they talk > >> about integration with CVS but I haven't yet evaluated how it's done) > >> this software will allow to keep distributed source control for the team. > >> This software seems to have a free community edition and if that is true > >> then I can install it on my ASP.NET hosting web site. > >> > >> Please everybody interested help me to evaluate how useful it is for our > >> purposes. > >> If you can find any better ASP.NET alternatives that woull be very > >> useful. > >> > >> I persoally like a lot this Team Taskboard of SCRUMWorks software: > >> > >> http://danube.com/sw_flash/feature/features-team_taskboard.html > >> > >> but this software is JAVA based and a "black-box" for me - I'd not use it > >> because of that. > >> > >> I'm currently spending considerably more than one hour here to prepare > >> all that - I can't ask to spend that much time you or other AcceessD > >> members but when everything ready I'd propose to strickly keep the > >> context of spending not more than one hour (5 hours total per week) for > >> this project. Well, maybe some more time discussing here how it will be > >> proceeding... > >> > >> I'd set 9th of Macrh 2009 as the start date for this project - OK? - if > >> nobody will join us by that date we will try to do it together with you. > >> Everybody are welcome! If to not participate in this project by doing > >> some simple .NET forms design/program then at least to help us to > >> evaluate how much this or that feature/task will take to get implemented. > >> This is so called "estimation using planning poker cards" - > >> http://www.crisp.se/planningpoker - doing such an estimation by two > >> people could result in not so good results as when it's done by 5 or more > >> people. > >> > >> Here are some links on SCRUM/agile and related issues - I will keep > >> posting links like that to get convinced some more AccessD members to > >> join our project: > >> > >> Tobias Mayer - my facilitator during SCRUM course there in Helsinki: > >> http://www.danube.com/blog/tobias_mayer/ > >> > >> Agile software development info: > >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agile_software_development > >> > >> Scale Back: Small is Beautiful - how group evaluation/planning results in > >> simple but very good results: > >> http://agilethinking.net/blog/2008/08/18/scale-back-small-is-beautiful > >> > >> Extreme Scrum (154KB) > >> https://www-927.ibm.com/ibm/cas/archives/2007/data/Agile/Extreme_Scrum.pdf > >> > >> What happens when we are all connected - Future Views > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqPs0xuG39Q (~6 min) > >> > >> "Only 3% of the world is on broadband today, and it's neither cheap, fast > >> or mobile enough. This will change in the next 2-3 years, and the > >> implications are huge: everyone shares, everyone networks with > >> strangers-like-me, everyone co-creates, everything is connected. A video > >> by Futurist and Author Gerd Leonhard" > >> > >> Working on SCRUM/Agile infrastructure here/expecting for more AccessD to > >> connect this project... > >> > >> Please comment on this my posting - all and every comments and > >> contributions are very welcome! > >> > >> Thank you. > >> > >> -- > >> Shamil > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: "Gustav Brock" <gustav at cactus.dk> > >> To: <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > >> Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 08:10:00 +0100 > >> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scrum (was: Find First in an Array? ...) > >> > >> > Hi Shamil > >> > > >> > Not much response to your proposal ... I guess our fellow listers are > >> > too busy or just don't feel the need to experience how to work in a > >> > group. > >> > To be honest, neither do I have currently that need but as "you never > >> > know" I am prepared to allocate the time you suggest. That makes two. > >> > But two? Doesn't it require three "to make a crowd"? > >> > > >> > Your adjusted description of the project fits me very well. > >> > > >> > /gustav > >> > >> > >> -- > >> AccessD mailing list > >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >> > > > > -- > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com