[AccessD] Learning .Net -- PHP Instead?

Jim Lawrence accessd at shaw.ca
Tue Jun 23 17:07:46 CDT 2009


Max,  True... Jim

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo
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Only in his opinion and he is dead.

In my opinion it works just fine.  Is a useful tool and should be retained
to avoid unnecessary convolution in code.

cOdD was a purist but how many of use go to full granularity?  Not many, I
will be bound.

Max



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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
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Hi Max:

Edsger Dijkstra one of the fathers of programming, was credited with
eliminating the GOTO and GOSUB use as just bad programming. ;-)

http://www.creativesystemdesigns.com/projects/relational.asp#edsger

You can always just use the Return statement. If you functions are large
enough to require lots of conditional statement maybe it is time to start
splitting up your code blocks. There was an excellent article that Shamil
introduced on the subject of coding methods... but I can not find the link
again. (Age related I suspect)

Jim

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo
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I use GOTO all the time, as in..

If <condition> then
Do something
Goto exithere
Endif
Code
Code
Exithere:
Wind up and exit
Errhandler:
Etc

Much easier to read then..

If <condition> then
Do something
Else
Do something else which is the main coding and stretched on and on.
Endif


Dont much care about standards, care more about what works for me...

Max


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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Foust
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There are always nostalga buffs out there ... LOL

Charlotte 

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence
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I thought GOTO and GOSUB functions were a thing of the past. |-P

Jim

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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Eric Barro
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Quite frankly I don't see the addition of a GOTO feature to be something
to look forward to in any programming language. 

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On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Kenneth Ismert <kismert at gmail.com>
wrote:

> If you are interested in Web programming, I would suggest PHP. Per 
> unit of effort, I think most VBA programmers would get further with 
> PHP than with ASPX, especially if you are starting out from scratch.
>
<snipped the rest>

> Python or Ruby, and make it a much more expressive language than VBA.
> * There is an enormous ecosystem of open-source libraries, IDEs, CMS 
> sytems, and MVC frameworks to choose from.
> * Projects developed under Windows/IIS should work with little or no 
> changes under Linux/Apache.
>
> PHP Drawbacks:
>
> * PHP is a web-specific language. If you want something 
> general-purpose, use something else.
> * PHP's libraries are extensive and rapidly improving, but it doesn't 
> have the monolithic library integration that .NET enjoys with the CLR.
> * Comprehensive, transparent support for Unicode is still lacking, as 
> it is with most scripting languages. PHP 6 will rectify this.
>
> -Ken
> aseadvisors.com <http://www.databaseadvisors.com>
>

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