Eric Barro
ebarro at verizon.net
Tue Jun 23 18:59:40 CDT 2009
Jim, I haven't tried AJAX, JSON or JQUERY...just pure ASP.NET (C#). Eric -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 11:01 AM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Learning .Net -- PHP Instead? Eric: Do you have any experience with JASON? I have heard it is excellent for handling browser to server data management... I have gone as far as AJAX and dabbled with XML but no further. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Eric Barro Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 10:31 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Learning .Net -- PHP Instead? Jim, I agree with you on the paradigm shift to web applications as opposed to desktop applications. In most cases however, those coming from a desktop-based environment tend to have a hard time transitioning because desktop apps tend to grab all of the data at once since there is often no need to take into account accessing network resources and all processing is done on the local machine. With a web-based approach one has to understand the client-server interaction. A good approach would be to find someone who is good with computer graphics, CSS, HTML and page layouting. When I worked on the Roxy project (http://www.roxy.com/designabikini), I worked with a good buddy of mine who took care of converting the Photoshop design files (PSDs) into HTML and CSS. I then converted the controls to ASP.NET controls and we use Visual SourceSafe for version control collaborating over the web. The tougher piece of the puzzle has to do with browser data flow and understanding how all the dynamic magic takes place. I'm currently working with David Emerson on a project where he takes care of the Access desktop version of an application he designed and developed and I took over the web version development. It's quite an involved process but I believe that we've been able to demonstrate that the process works (right David?). Eric P.S. Shamil, you like ESET's NOD32 as well I see? -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 7:44 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] Learning .Net -- PHP Instead? Hi Shamil: I tend to agree with you that .Net is the way to go as now I have some many different technologies to support it is hard to master any. What I need is a steady gig with .Net... say 6 months and away I go. Right now a client is giving me a few weeks MS Access with an ongoing support contract... I have even suggested an ASP.Net web based solution but they didn't bite. I personally believe that web based programming is the way of the present and future but it takes extensive knowledge of a number of disciplines. Unless you are working on a team effort, a successful programmer/contractor has to be competent with: 1. Computer Graphics.. Photoshop and Illustrator along with excellent design understanding (Even Flash and now Silver Light). 2. A good understanding of FE layout and presentation; HTML, CSS and JavaScript. 3. A good knowledge of browser data flow, ASP.Net, AJAX, SOAP, XML... etc. 4. Then there is BE technology, SQL (MS, Oracle, MySQL), Cloud technology, Hosting and various other mash-ups. I am sure you guys can add plenty to that list but I think I have covered the highlights. ...and people wonder why a good custom built commercial web site cost 100K and if the site is to remain fresh and current that 100K is only about 20% of what the long-term support fees will come to. I know of many successful commercial sites (companies which do most of the work through the web) that have a team of 10 or more techs working full-time. If I was not so lazy (translation; 25 years younger) I would be trying to start up another company. To make a short story long... I agree with you that ASP.Net is the technology to learn. Jim PS The ASP.Net problem will have to wait until the paying gig is finished... and oh yes, the inside house look like a bomb exploded... I am in the middle of Reno hell as well. -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com