William Hindman
wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com
Mon Jun 29 08:40:44 CDT 2009
...rotflmao!!! ...you're in rare form ...its going to be a GOOD day on the farm, it is :) William -------------------------------------------------- From: "Max Wanadoo" <max.wanadoo at gmail.com> Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 9:29 AM To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Poll on Access 2007 > Revert to 2003 <GRIN> > > Max > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin > Sent: 29 June 2009 14:25 > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Poll on Access 2007 > > Does anyone find that A2007 runs much slower that 2003? I and the ONE > client who uses 2007 both find it noticeably and significantly slower. Is > there some fix for that? > > Rocky > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Darryl Collins > Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 4:44 PM > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Poll on Access 2007 > > Hi Steve, > > It is good to read that some folks like Access 2007. I cannot say I am > one > of them though. The whole app seems to be not quite finished. It is > clunky > and inelegant compared to Access 2003. Existing forms no longer fit > smoothly on the screen and my personal bugbear in both Access and Excel is > how MS have completely fouled up existing custom toolbars and menus that > have functioned flawlessly for years and over multiple app versions. > > ok, you can recode them as custom tabs in XML, but then they are no longer > backwardly compatible with older versions. You also cannot position them > where they are most useful and the user still has to select the tab to get > all the tools for the form. Rubbish. Besides, Often I would put a custom > nav and close toolbar at the bottom of the screen with process toolbar at > the top. Elegant, logic and functional - but no. Can't do that anymore, > can't do much really. > > I don't know about the rest of the world, but here in Oz, Office 2007 is > no > where near critical mass. Most of the people who are using it are small > businesses and 'mum and dads' who have purchased a new PC and accepted > whatever it came with. Indeed, if anything folks who use Office 2007 are > generally annoyed as hell to find out that .doc/.xls email attachment they > sent everyone is hard to open and bits are missing for the bulk of the > recipients. Yeah, I know you can run stuff in compat mode, but then why > bother upgrading at all? > > One day time and technology will ensure that everyone creeps fwd to the > newer apps, but I can honestly say the ribbon has done nothing to improve > my > productivity and I have been using it now for months- and in with the case > of stuffing all the custom tools bars into the addin tab, this has > actually > made thing much worse for me and my clients. > > So Access 2007 a step forward? It is largely puffery and pretty colours. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Steve Schapel > Sent: Saturday, 27 June 2009 7:22 PM > To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Poll on Access 2007 > > Hi Max, > > Yes, I understand, and I have seen the problems that many people have had > in > adapting to change, and recognising the value of the fantastic changes > that > were given to us with Access 2007. > > I anticipate that in 10 years, my work will still be centred around Access > development. Maybe yours will be too. If so, it is my fervent hope that > we > will look back at this period, and feel gratitude to the Access team at > Microsoft, for their willingness to take the hard and unpopular decisions > in > order to keep Access current with the IT industry, create a product that > is > unique in its scope of functionality, and provide Access with a future. > > We have to see Access 2007 as the first tentative steps in a major > movement > towards Access 2010 and beyond, and sometimes tentative steps only make > sense in retrospect. But I don't think there is any secret about the fact > that Microsoft is investing hugely in the future of Access, and I have a > hunch they're getting it right. > > Regards > Steve > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Max Wanadoo" <max.wanadoo at gmail.com> > Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 7:09 PM > To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Poll on Access 2007 > >> Steve FWIW, I am definitely PRO MS but anti Access 2007. >> >> Over the years MS has given the majority a stable site of platforms >> which enables collaboration at various levels throughtout and across the > World. >> It has never been Un-Affordable although it must be said that costs >> were never reduced once R&D and Profits Targets were reached - it >> would have been nice to the old-2-back versions at half price for >> those who didn't want cutting edge. But for me, MS has been a good >> thing. >> >> What I dislike mostly about A2007 is that, in real development terms, >> it has bought nothing to the table. It has remove interfaces that >> have, in some cases, taken years to hone and perfect, and all for the >> God "Looks". It is functionality and benefits that count and these >> are beyond the scope of end-users - complex, behind the scene coding >> has to be done to make it "perform" in a real tough business sense. >> EG. What did the Ribbon bring to the table for a developer producing a >> MR2 manufacturing solution? Answer: >> a >> lot of heartache to re-write existing code for no other reason than >> the interface has changed. >> > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > This email and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential > information and are intended for the named addressee only. 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