[AccessD] Poll on Access 2007

ROTFL, a soup nazi you are eh?

John W. Colby
www.ColbyConsulting.com


William Hindman wrote:
> "Unfortunately I have to trash their six months of
> work because it is useless." JC
> 
> ...its worse than that ...you have to break their bad habits ...you have to 
> pretty much kill their power user ...and if I can't get a new client to 
> agree to runtime only installs with mdes up front, I don't take the job 
> ...too old for all the problems that are inevitable when some power user 
> with a full Access install starts running active queries on the data :(
> 
> William
> 
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> From: "jwcolby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 11:17 AM
> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Poll on Access 2007
> 
>>> I do have direct contact and I do put your comments to them. As you can 
>>> see as someone already
>> said they have a listening issue!!!!!!
>>
>> LOL, yep.  To be honest, I don't believe they care, at all.  They want to 
>> keep us believing they
>> care because at this point nobody buys Office with Access unless they have 
>> a database project to do
>> (or already have a real Access application), and we sell clients on 
>> Access, but in the end they want
>> to sell Access to everybody that buys Office, a MUCH bigger pool.
>>
>> NOTICE, that once everyone buys Access as part of the package, then MS 
>> truly won't care, won't make
>> any effort to even convince us that they care about us because they won't 
>> need us to sell Access
>> anymore.
>>
>> In the meantime, in order to sell Access to everyone they need to somehow 
>> convince everyone buying
>> office that Access is user friendly, they need it, and THEY CAN DO IT 
>> (develop a database).  In
>> order to do that it has to be...
>>
>> 1) Pretty
>> 2) Look the same as the other office apps
>> 3) Pretty
>> 4) Look the same as the other office apps
>> 5) Pretty
>> .
>> .continue infinitely downward
>> .
>>
>> Remember that the person buying office knows Word, and they know whether 
>> they need it, and EVERYONE
>> knows how to use it.  They know Excel and know whether they need it, and 
>> LOTS OF PEOPLE know how to
>> use it.  They haven't a clue about Access and don't know if they need it, 
>> and NOBODY in their office
>> knows how to use it (and never will, at a development tool level).  So MS 
>> wants to make it DO
>> SOMETHING (anything!) so that people will start using it, see it, think 
>> they can somehow use it, and
>> thus BUY IT.
>>
>> I have a standing joke that says that MS is my private marketing 
>> department.  They spend millions
>> convincing people that they can build databases, then when they get 6 
>> months in and can't build a
>> database, they call me to build them a database.  Unfortunately I have to 
>> trash their six months of
>> work because it is useless.
>>
>> John W. Colby
>> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>
>>
>> Martin Reid wrote:
>>> One of the problems I have is that by the time you get to actually touch 
>>> the software its to late. They have invested millions of dollars already 
>>> in the new version and no one is going to actually change that much of it 
>>> in response to anything I put forward. I also make clear at every 
>>> opportunity the comments of those on this list who actually do work with 
>>> Access every day.
>>>
>>> I do have direct contact and I do put your comments to them. As you can 
>>> see as someone already said they have a listening issue!!!!!!
>>>
>>> Martin
>>>
>>> Martin WP Reid
>>> Information Services
>>> The Library at Queen's
>>> Tel : 02890976174
>>> Email : mwp.reid at qub.ac.uk
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