Bill Patten
bill_patten at embarqmail.com
Mon Mar 2 11:51:06 CST 2009
As far as I know, of course no one at the events could officially state that it would not be enforced but that was the impression I got. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "jwcolby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 9:16 AM Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scrum I assume that the same true for the version of Windows 2008 and SQL Server 2008? John W. Colby www.ColbyConsulting.com Bill Patten wrote: > Hi John, > > It was mentioned at the "hero" event that because of the value of VS2008 > Standard, MS would have had to provide 1099's had they just given it out. > By > making it a demo (1 Year) they did not. It was also mentioned that their > was no plan or method to enforce the time period. > > Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jwcolby" <jwcolby at colbyconsulting.com> > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 4:59 AM > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scrum > > > I don't have professional version of either. I have standard edition of > both though the 2008 was > supposed to be limited to a year from when I got it, which Microsoft > didn't > disclose until AFTER I > attended their release party to get the copy. > > John W. Colby > www.ColbyConsulting.com > > > Salakhetdinov Shamil wrote: >> Thank you, Doug, >> >> Now we have 5 team members! :) >> >> Gustav, >> Mike, >> John, >> Doug, >> Shamil >> >> And the team is complete for this first project as we plan to use >> TargetProcess SCRUM/agile management softwarem which free community >> edition has only five free licenses. I have got this edition already and >> I >> plan to install it within this week on my ASP.NET hosting site (because I >> do not have server side access to thsi ASP.NEt hosting site the >> installation needs some manual work). >> >> The most urgent task now before we start is to get everybody the same VS >> version if possible. >> >> In my opinion the best would be VS2008 Prof. >> If some of the team members will have VS2005 Prof. that would be still OK >> but with some issues in sharing sources prepared using different VS >> version. >> >> If VS2005 and VS2008 Standard Edition compile well the following sample >> solutions >> >> http://smsconsulting.spb.ru/download/scrum/nwnet.zip (~400KB) >> >> and allow to use .NET ReportViewer control in design mode they also >> qualify as development evnironment. >> >> If C#2008 Express Edition allow to use .NET ReportViewer control in >> design >> mode - it will also quialify. >> >> The current version of sample solution referred above do have class >> library, which according to William's info do not compile under C# 2008 >> Express edition - the solution of this issue could be: >> >> - compile classlib dlls under VS2005 or VS2006 Professional edition and >> give that compiled DLLs to the team memebrs with C# 2008 Express to use. >> The DLLs promise to be stable, and every library code team members with >> C# >> 2008 Express will create can be first put by them into their FE project >> and then moved into class lib. - some trouble but not that much - it can >> be handled. (The areferred above sample solution does have this classlib >> dll in \Bin subfolder) >> >> Of course the best would be all of us to get alighed with VS2005 or >> VS2008 >> Professional (or Standard if it works well with the above sample >> projects). >> >> I have both installed on one PC - VS2008 installs just fine on the same >> PC >> where VS2005 is installed (VS2008 needs quite some space to be installed >> but installation works smoothly. AFAIKR I have tested also VS2008 Prof. >> installation under VNWare and it worked OK). >> >> Could that be that some AccessD members have some not used VS2008 Prof. >> licenses to share? - I mean the minimal MS Partner MSDN subscription >> usually have 5 licenses and some can be shared if not used? Am I wrong? >> (I >> have got my VS2008 Prof. license form my friend/partner who might have >> another not used VS2008 Prof. license - I will check)... >> >> Thank you. >> >> -- >> Shamil >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: "Doug Murphy" <dw-murphy at cox.net> >> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem >> solving'"<accessd at databaseadvisors.com> >> Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 16:34:21 -0800 >> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scrum >> >>> OK, I signed into Shamil's site. By play I ment participate. I have >>> VS2008 >>> on my development machine. Not sure I have a full install of 2005. There >>> is >>> enough to support SQL Server reports. My hope here is to learn from all >>> of >>> the participants while hopefully contributing. >>> >>> Doug >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com >>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock >>> Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 10:44 AM >>> To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com >>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Scrum >>> >>> Hi Doug >>> >>> Great! Sounds indeed as you can "play" as you call it! >>> So please go ahead and sign up at Shamil's site: >>> >>> http://shamils-4.hosting.parking.ru/dnn49 >>> >>> /gustav >>> >>> >>>>>> dw-murphy at cox.net 01-03-2009 18:58:58 >>> >>> Hi folks, >>> >>> I have been working some with VS2008 in ASP.NET and a few small VB.NET >>> WinForms apps. I would like to work with you on this as I have been >>> looking >>> at VS as a good database front end environment as Microsoft moves office >>> further away from what I think most business need for their application. >>> I >>> see this as a good learning excercise. >>> >>> Let me know if I can play, help or lurk. >>> >>> Doug >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> AccessD mailing list >>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> >>> -- >>> AccessD mailing list >>> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >>> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >>> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >>> -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com