Stuart McLachlan
stuart at lexacorp.com.pg
Sat Mar 14 09:35:41 CDT 2009
I use and strongly recommend Sun VirtualBox. http://www.virtualbox.org/ It comes either as Open Source under a GNU GPL licence or closed source under a "VirtualBox Personal Use and Evaluation License" . The Personal Use clause is very open: "Personal Use" requires that you use the Product on the same Host Computer where you installed it yourself and that no more than one client connect to that Host Computer at a time for the purpose of displaying Guest Computers remotely." The closed source version is definitely the one to get, because of its additonal features. >From reviews on the web, VirtualBox seems to be a better product in a number of ways and it is under constant development - they come up with a new version about once a month.. Cheers, Stuart On 14 Mar 2009 at 13:57, Max Wanadoo wrote: > William, > Is virtual PC 2007 from Microsoft free or not. The site says "free download" > but it is unclear whether that means that after installing it, I then get > only xyz days to use it. > > If not free, what would you recommend? > > Thanks > Max > > > > On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 1:38 PM, William Hindman < > wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com> wrote: > > > Arthur > > > > ...don't know ...I removed Express before installing VSP '8 > > ...can't think of a reason to run them side-by-side but if I wanted to > > install it again, I'd do it on a virtual pc. > > ...did I mention how much I love vpc? ...makes things like this sooooooo > > easy! :) > > > > ...and how can anyone complain about getting paid to live and work in > > Bermuda ...especially a Canuck in wintertime? :) > > > > ...btw ...anyone wanting to learn c# and visual studio in the real world > > should watch Shamil and group at work > > over in dba-vb :) > > > > William > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com> > > Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 9:14 AM > > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" > > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > > Subject: Re: [AccessD] William Hindman (Re: Visual Basic 2008 Express > > &VB.NET <http://vb.net/>) > > > > > William, > > > > > > Can one install Express side by side with the full version? I have the VS > > > Pro edition installed already and have been meaning to get around to it, > > > but > > > seem to spend all my time in SQL Server instead. I have to do something > > > about that :) > > > > > > A. > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 2:41 AM, William Hindman < > > > wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com> wrote: > > > > > >> Susan > > >> > > >> ...try these for beginner level stuff > > >> > > >> http://www.microsoft.com/express/vb/default.aspx > > >> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/beginner/bb308760.aspx > > >> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/beginner/default.aspx > > >> > > >> ...and not that you asked, but if it were me doing it all over again I'd > > >> skip the vb.net stuff and go straight to c#.net > > >> ...there really isn't that much difference in the syntax and elsewise > > the > > >> learning curve is the same > > >> ...and what you'll find in the end is that there are far, far more > > "good" > > >> code samples available in c#.net than vb.net > > >> ...I let the C# scare me off at first, assuming that vb.net would be > > like > > >> vb/vba ...but it just isn't > > >> ...and when you get into it, you'll find answers in c# that just don't > > >> exist > > >> in vb and then start using the free translation sites > > >> ...and when you see the c#.net code you input come out in vb.net, it > > will > > >> dawn on you that the structure and logic is the same, only the syntax > > >> differs > > >> ...so why spend the time learning the vb.net syntax when you're > > >> eventually > > >> going to start writing in c# anyway if you're serious about learning > > >> dotnet > > >> > > >> ...I know, I know ...but I'm going to remind you I told you so one of > > >> these > > >> days :) > > >> > > >> William > > >> > > >> -------------------------------------------------- > > >> From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at gmail.com> > > >> Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 12:05 PM > > >> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" > > >> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > > >> Subject: [AccessD] William Hindman (Re: Visual Basic 2008 Express & > > >> VB.NET <http://vb.net/><http://vb.net/> > > >> ) > > >> > > >> > I know this is a really old subject -- but William, you mentioned the > > >> MS > > >> > dotnet learning site -- I can't find it, do you have a link? What I'm > > >> > turning up is way over my head, definitely not beginner stuff. > > >> > > > >> > Susan H. > > >> > > > >> >> ...before you buy a book (Susan will kill me for this) try the MS > > >> >> dotnet > > >> >> learning site first ...they have literally dozens of free walk though > > >> >> videos > > >> >> with downloadable code ...a step above the normal quality for MS > > >> >> ...I've > > >> >> got > > >> >> hundreds of books collecting dust from other products over the years > > >> >> but > > >> >> not > > >> >> one on VS2008 so far even though its now my full time development > > >> >> environment (with the exception of legacy Access dbs that I still > > >> support > > >> >> and am working on converting) ...point being that imnsho, the quality > > >> and > > >> >> accessibility of free and low cost on-line learning resources now > > >> >> makes > > >> >> most > > >> >> tech books obsolete ...and I'd be the first to admit I love books. > > >> > > > >> > -- > > >> > AccessD mailing list > > >> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > >> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > >> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > >> > > > >> > > >> -- > > >> AccessD mailing list > > >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > >> > > > -- > > > AccessD mailing list > > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > > > > -- > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com