[AccessD] William Hindman (Re: Visual Basic 2008 Express&VB.NET)

William Hindman wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com
Sat Mar 14 10:44:51 CDT 2009


...its free ...and it comes with a vhd with win xp or vista already 
installed so you don't have to buy another copy ...the free os is a limited 
time but they've renewed it every time it was about to expire so far.

William

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From: "Max Wanadoo" <max.wanadoo at gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 9:57 AM
To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] William Hindman (Re: Visual Basic 2008 
Express&VB.NET)

> William,
> Is virtual PC 2007 from Microsoft free or not. The site says "free 
> download"
> but it is unclear whether that means that after installing it, I then  get
> only xyz days to use it.
>
> If not free, what would  you recommend?
>
> Thanks
> Max
>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 1:38 PM, William Hindman <
> wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com> wrote:
>
>> Arthur
>>
>> ...don't know ...I removed Express before installing VSP '8
>> ...can't think of a reason to run them side-by-side but if I wanted to
>> install it again, I'd do it on a virtual pc.
>> ...did I mention how much I love vpc? ...makes things like this sooooooo
>> easy! :)
>>
>> ...and how can anyone complain about getting paid to live and work in
>> Bermuda ...especially a Canuck in wintertime? :)
>>
>> ...btw ...anyone wanting to learn c# and visual studio in the real world
>> should watch Shamil and group at work
>> over in dba-vb :)
>>
>> William
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 9:14 AM
>> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] William Hindman (Re: Visual Basic 2008 Express
>> &VB.NET <http://vb.net/>)
>>
>> > William,
>> >
>> > Can one install Express side by side with the full version? I have the 
>> > VS
>> > Pro edition installed already and have been meaning to get around to 
>> > it,
>> > but
>> > seem to spend all my time in SQL Server instead. I have to do something
>> > about that :)
>> >
>> > A.
>> >
>> > On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 2:41 AM, William Hindman <
>> > wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Susan
>> >>
>> >> ...try these for beginner level stuff
>> >>
>> >> http://www.microsoft.com/express/vb/default.aspx
>> >> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/beginner/bb308760.aspx
>> >> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/beginner/default.aspx
>> >>
>> >> ...and not that you asked, but if it were me doing it all over again 
>> >> I'd
>> >> skip the vb.net stuff and go straight to c#.net
>> >> ...there really isn't that much difference in the syntax and elsewise
>> the
>> >> learning curve is the same
>> >> ...and what you'll find in the end is that there are far, far more
>> "good"
>> >> code samples available in c#.net than vb.net
>> >> ...I let the C# scare me off at first, assuming that vb.net would be
>> like
>> >> vb/vba ...but it just isn't
>> >> ...and when you get into it, you'll find answers in c# that just don't
>> >> exist
>> >> in vb and then start using the free translation sites
>> >> ...and when you see the c#.net code you input come out in vb.net, it
>> will
>> >> dawn on you that the structure and logic is the same, only the syntax
>> >> differs
>> >> ...so why spend the time learning the vb.net syntax when you're
>> >> eventually
>> >> going to start writing in c# anyway if you're serious about learning
>> >> dotnet
>> >>
>> >> ...I know, I know ...but I'm going to remind you I told you so one of
>> >> these
>> >> days :)
>> >>
>> >> William
>> >>
>> >> --------------------------------------------------
>> >> From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at gmail.com>
>> >> Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 12:05 PM
>> >> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving"
>> >> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> >> Subject: [AccessD] William Hindman (Re: Visual Basic 2008 Express &
>> >> VB.NET <http://vb.net/><http://vb.net/>
>> >> )
>> >>
>> >>  > I know this is a really old subject -- but William, you mentioned 
>> >> the
>> >> MS
>> >> > dotnet learning site -- I can't find it, do you have a link? What 
>> >> > I'm
>> >> > turning up is way over my head, definitely not beginner stuff.
>> >> >
>> >> > Susan H.
>> >> >
>> >> >> ...before you buy a book (Susan will kill me for this) try the MS
>> >> >> dotnet
>> >> >> learning site first ...they have literally dozens of free walk 
>> >> >> though
>> >> >> videos
>> >> >> with downloadable code ...a step above the normal quality for MS
>> >> >> ...I've
>> >> >> got
>> >> >> hundreds of books collecting dust from other products over the 
>> >> >> years
>> >> >> but
>> >> >> not
>> >> >> one on VS2008 so far even though its now my full time development
>> >> >> environment (with the exception of legacy Access dbs that I still
>> >> support
>> >> >> and am working on converting) ...point being that imnsho, the 
>> >> >> quality
>> >> and
>> >> >> accessibility of free and low cost on-line learning resources now
>> >> >> makes
>> >> >> most
>> >> >> tech books obsolete ...and I'd be the first to admit I love books.
>> >> >
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