Drew Wutka
DWUTKA at Marlow.com
Mon Mar 16 10:01:40 CDT 2009
Yes, completely free. Virtual PC 2007 and Virtual Server 2005 R2 are both completely, 100% free. Use them however you want! Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Max Wanadoo Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 8:57 AM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] William Hindman (Re: Visual Basic 2008 Express&VB.NET) William, Is virtual PC 2007 from Microsoft free or not. The site says "free download" but it is unclear whether that means that after installing it, I then get only xyz days to use it. If not free, what would you recommend? Thanks Max On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 1:38 PM, William Hindman < wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com> wrote: > Arthur > > ...don't know ...I removed Express before installing VSP '8 > ...can't think of a reason to run them side-by-side but if I wanted to > install it again, I'd do it on a virtual pc. > ...did I mention how much I love vpc? ...makes things like this sooooooo > easy! :) > > ...and how can anyone complain about getting paid to live and work in > Bermuda ...especially a Canuck in wintertime? :) > > ...btw ...anyone wanting to learn c# and visual studio in the real world > should watch Shamil and group at work > over in dba-vb :) > > William > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Arthur Fuller" <fuller.artful at gmail.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 9:14 AM > To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" > <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] William Hindman (Re: Visual Basic 2008 Express > &VB.NET <http://vb.net/>) > > > William, > > > > Can one install Express side by side with the full version? I have the VS > > Pro edition installed already and have been meaning to get around to it, > > but > > seem to spend all my time in SQL Server instead. I have to do something > > about that :) > > > > A. > > > > On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 2:41 AM, William Hindman < > > wdhindman at dejpolsystems.com> wrote: > > > >> Susan > >> > >> ...try these for beginner level stuff > >> > >> http://www.microsoft.com/express/vb/default.aspx > >> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/beginner/bb308760.aspx > >> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/beginner/default.aspx > >> > >> ...and not that you asked, but if it were me doing it all over again I'd > >> skip the vb.net stuff and go straight to c#.net > >> ...there really isn't that much difference in the syntax and elsewise > the > >> learning curve is the same > >> ...and what you'll find in the end is that there are far, far more > "good" > >> code samples available in c#.net than vb.net > >> ...I let the C# scare me off at first, assuming that vb.net would be > like > >> vb/vba ...but it just isn't > >> ...and when you get into it, you'll find answers in c# that just don't > >> exist > >> in vb and then start using the free translation sites > >> ...and when you see the c#.net code you input come out in vb.net, it > will > >> dawn on you that the structure and logic is the same, only the syntax > >> differs > >> ...so why spend the time learning the vb.net syntax when you're > >> eventually > >> going to start writing in c# anyway if you're serious about learning > >> dotnet > >> > >> ...I know, I know ...but I'm going to remind you I told you so one of > >> these > >> days :) > >> > >> William > >> > >> -------------------------------------------------- > >> From: "Susan Harkins" <ssharkins at gmail.com> > >> Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 12:05 PM > >> To: "Access Developers discussion and problem solving" > >> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com> > >> Subject: [AccessD] William Hindman (Re: Visual Basic 2008 Express & > >> VB.NET <http://vb.net/><http://vb.net/> > >> ) > >> > >> > I know this is a really old subject -- but William, you mentioned the > >> MS > >> > dotnet learning site -- I can't find it, do you have a link? What I'm > >> > turning up is way over my head, definitely not beginner stuff. > >> > > >> > Susan H. > >> > > >> >> ...before you buy a book (Susan will kill me for this) try the MS > >> >> dotnet > >> >> learning site first ...they have literally dozens of free walk though > >> >> videos > >> >> with downloadable code ...a step above the normal quality for MS > >> >> ...I've > >> >> got > >> >> hundreds of books collecting dust from other products over the years > >> >> but > >> >> not > >> >> one on VS2008 so far even though its now my full time development > >> >> environment (with the exception of legacy Access dbs that I still > >> support > >> >> and am working on converting) ...point being that imnsho, the quality > >> and > >> >> accessibility of free and low cost on-line learning resources now > >> >> makes > >> >> most > >> >> tech books obsolete ...and I'd be the first to admit I love books. > >> > > >> > -- > >> > AccessD mailing list > >> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >> > > >> > >> -- > >> AccessD mailing list > >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > >> > > -- > > AccessD mailing list > > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > > > > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com The information contained in this transmission is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain II-VI Proprietary and/or II-VI Business Sensitive material. 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