Hewson, Jim
JHewson at nciinc.com
Thu Mar 19 16:54:37 CDT 2009
What I am finding that some of our customers do not want any .net development or any other development that involves any type of programming language. Some of their IT departments considered it a new developed software and it could take several months or longer to get approval to begin the project and/or deploy it. If the development is done in Access using the tools that came with Access then the IT department considers it COTS and no approval is necessary. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 4:43 PM To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMS Article on the new features in Access 2007 I would expand that to the office suite, not just Access. Is it possible Access was never intended to be the development tool it became, but just a power user application. Now they are trying to reel it back in and move us to .net? -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of David McAfee Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 4:19 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] FMS Article on the new features in Access 2007 I'll Just wait for the next version. It used to be every other version of Access was not that great. I think something got out of Sync. 1 -Never used it 2 - Good 95 - Bleh, hurl, <dry heave noise> 97 - My favorite 2000 - I liked it, but I think it wasnt well liked 2002 (Office XP) I never really used it 2003 - Like it 2007 - more dry heaving noises On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Max Wanadoo <max.wanadoo at gmail.com> wrote: > With the single exception of the Datasheet Totals, there is nothing > fundamental,y improved for me as a developer. The quote "..get used > to it.." made me spit. I can get used to anything, but why have all > these new ways of doing what is essentially the same. Lots of "stuff" > is worse - David points them out below. > For me, I abhor the 2007. No "fundamental" improvements - with this > "update", beauty is not even skin deep. > > Max > > > On 3/19/09, David McAfee <davidmcafee at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I agree with him on these A2007 problems: >> >> Not being able to see a list of object sorted by modified date the >> way you'd expect in Windows Explorer. >> >> Losing Alt+D as a way to put the current object in design mode >> >> Losing the toolbar item to automatically jump to a form or report's >> module code >> >> Missing right mouse click items like import/export >> >> As for the Ribbon, I don't like the "Once you get used to it, its not >> that bad" that I hear quite often. >> I don't feel so many command/tol bar buttons need to be seen. As a >> programer, I feel I need to know what the user needs to have >> available to them, If they do need something that can navigate view >> the menus (oops, they removed them!). >> >> "Overcoming Resistance to Change >> >> For years, the Access community complained that Microsoft was >> abandoning Access, that they didn't invest enough in it, that the Jet >> Engine and DAO was dead, etc. Well, the Microsoft Access development >> team for Access 2007 was the largest ever and Microsoft made a huge >> investment that added considerable new features to Access." >> >> I never really requested change. I hoped that they wouldn't abandon >> Access, like was always rumored. >> >> There are a few new cool features, but they never fixed some old bugs >> that still go back to early versions of Access. >> >> They still haven't made a list box with .fontcolor or >> .selectedrowBackColor property. >> >> The datasheet totals are cool, but I should provide that for my users >> in their form. Remember, users shouldnt be accessing the >> tables/queries directly. >> >> "In Access 2007, a different approach is necessary for finding your >> object. Rather than visually finding it, enter some letters of the >> object name in the Search Bar, and the list of objects gets filtered >> to just those names. This makes it very easy to find objects by name >> -- especially text within an object name -- that wasn't possible >> before. Once you are used to this, it's very difficult to go back." >> >> Nah, give me my detail view. The ability to sort by Name and or date >> is more important to me. My naming conventions is another way for me >> to quickly find what I need. >> >> The Date picker is nice, but is there a way to turn it off? THey may >> be times where you don't want it to be displayed, or use your own >> instead. >> >> Just my worthless 2 cents, >> David >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 1:04 PM, <rusty.hammond at cpiqpc.com> wrote: >> > >> > I just thought I'd throw this out there and see everyone thinks. >> > >> > http://www.fmsinc.com/MicrosoftAccess/2007/Top-Features.html >> > <http://www.fmsinc.com/MicrosoftAccess/2007/Top-Features.html> >> > >> > It does sound like there are some nice new features. Whether they >> outweigh >> > the drawbacks... >> > >> > >> > Rusty Hammond >> > >> > >> > ******************************************************************* >> > *** >> > WARNING: All e-mail sent to and from this address will be received, >> > scanned or otherwise recorded by the CPI Qualified Plan Consultants, Inc. >> > corporate e-mail system and is subject to archival, monitoring or >> > review by, and/or disclosure to, someone other than the recipient. >> > ******************************************************************* >> > *** >> > -- >> > AccessD mailing list >> > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> >> >> -- >> AccessD mailing list >> AccessD at databaseadvisors.com >> http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd >> Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com >> > -- > AccessD mailing list > AccessD at databaseadvisors.com > http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd > Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com > -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ********************************************************************** WARNING: All e-mail sent to and from this address will be received, scanned or otherwise recorded by the CPI Qualified Plan Consultants, Inc. corporate e-mail system and is subject to archival, monitoring or review by, and/or disclosure to, someone other than the recipient. ********************************************************************** -- AccessD mailing list AccessD at databaseadvisors.com http://databaseadvisors.com/mailman/listinfo/accessd Website: http://www.databaseadvisors.com ################################################################################ If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender immediately and be aware that the use, copying, or dissemination of this information is prohibited. 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