[AccessD] Java-some interesting info

Mark Simms marksimms at verizon.net
Sat Nov 21 11:24:58 CST 2009


Indeed Java is popular, but it is productive ?

Where I am contracting right now, a web app built in java/jsp/j2ee took
about 6 man-months to develop.
After the app appears never to reach stability, a hot-shot programmer comes
along and rewrites it in 2 months using ASP.NET and VS2008.
Actually Java's J2EE architecture appears to have failed. If you get onto
the Springhouse website, you'll see mention of why their framework has
replaced it (and why the company was recently sold for several hundred
million dollars recently).

>From Dice.com - USA openings:
Java= 3280
C#= 1076
.NET= 1780
VBA= 69



> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> Jim Lawrence
> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 9:27 AM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access/SQL
>
> Hi Rocky:
>
> Java is the most used language in the programming world. All
> the universities, that I know, teach it in their computer
> science courses.
> Google is written in a combination of Java and JavaScript.
> Below is the best list of languages and their status that I
> have found:
>
> http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html
>
> Jim
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> Rocky Smolin
> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 4:04 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access/SQL
>
> Well, I'm so happy I waited to learn VB.NET.  It died while I
> was waiting.
> One vote for the procrastinators.
>
> My kid is 13.  He's heavy into JAVA now.  But what should he
> learn for the future?  What's going to be the platform du
> jour in 5 years? 10 years?
>
> Rocky
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of
> Shamil Salakhetdinov
> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 1:30 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access/SQL
>
> Mark,
>
> VB.Net is OK.
> I can use both C# and VB.NET interchangeably as many .NET
> developers do.
> But I do prefer C#.
> Nowadays in my development I'm using 99.99% of the time C#
> (for several years now).
> There are also F#, IronPython and IronRuby, which can be used
> on .NET development platform...
> Even more programming languages will come to .NET platform in
> the future...
>
> Even Fortran can be used within .NET -
> http://www.codeproject.com/KB/net-languages/intro_fortran.aspx
>  AFAIHF...
>
> Thank you.
>
> --
> Shamil
>
> P.S. I'd guess "new powerful webdev platform" uses C# by
> default but you can always switch to VB.NET or use both...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Mark Simms
> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 11:59 PM
> To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access/SQL
>
> VB.NET is dead, dead, dead.
> Everyone has moved to C#...much more elegant.
> On Microsoft's new, most powerful webdev platform one can only use C#.
> Recent stat from DICE.COM: 68 VB.NET openings vs. 162 C#
> openings....almost
> 3:1 !!!
>
> Note: Even John Colby has moved over to C#.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Shamil
> > Salakhetdinov
> > Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 1:36 PM
> > To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
> > Subject: Re: [AccessD] Access/SQL
> >
> > Mark,
> >
> > IMO C# + .NET Framework is the best ever general purpose
> development
> > platform for business applications.
> >
> > I'm talking from my experience in development of business
> applications
> > using PL/1, COBOL, Fortran (Fortran-77), Pascal, Delphi, C/C++,
> > DataFlex, VBA, VB6, VB.NET, C#...
> >
> > One with good VB6/VBA development experience can start developing
> > VB.NET business apps the next day/week provided they will
> get proper
> > guidelines/help/tutoring...
> >
> > I have such examples as e.g. when I have got advanced MS Excel COM
> > Add-in and converted it (just starting using VB.NET this day) to a
> > VB.NET one within three days (10,000+ code
> > lines) - it's nothing special - most of experienced VB6/VBA
> developers
> > can do that.
> >
> > --
> > Shamil
>
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