[AccessD] OT: Virtual PC 2007 (MS), CITRIX XenServer, CITRIX HDX...

Drew Wutka DWUTKA at Marlow.com
Mon Sep 21 16:48:26 CDT 2009


Hmmmm, first, you can accomplish 1, 2, and the first part of 3 simply
with Virtual Server 2005.  It's FREE, and compatible with Virtual PC
2007.  (By compatible, you can create a VM in Virtual PC 2007, shut it
down, copy the .vhd hard drive file to a location where your virtual
server can use it, and then create a new VM in Virtual Server 2005 using
that hard drive.)

Virtual Server machines run in the back ground, not directly on your
machine. But Virtual Server is also WAY better at running multiple
machines.  Virtual PC runs EVERYTHING in one thread, so if you have 3
machines running, you are running them all within one thread.  With
Virtual server, each virtual machine (that is running), runs in it's own
thread.  Virtual Server has two 'interfaces'  There is a web interface
(which is the default interface). This lets you control the entire
system, and control an individual VM through an ActiveX control.  There
is also a VM something or other that let's you 'connect' to a running VM
(and this too can be run from another machine (you just install that
portion of Virtual Server 2005 on the client machine you want to use
that utility on).  That interface, however, doesn't let you make changes
to anything in the system, just offers a method of actually interfacing
with the VM itself.

There is also VMRCplus (version 1.8.0.0).  It's a free utility that uses
Virtual Server's scripting capabilities to give you a handy method of
controlling both the server and all the VM's.  The only issue I have had
with this utility, is that it MUST be run on a standard LAN (100 megabit
or better).  Running it through a VPN connection (behind a T1 (1.5
megabit) connection) it won't work...it is just pulling too much
information down to ever allow you to do anything.

Virtual Machines can also be setup to turn on automatically with the
machine (and either shutdown or pause when the host machine shuts down),
and with the scripting stuff, you can do practically anything you want
(including shutting a machine down in order to backup it's .vhd file)

Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Shamil
Salakhetdinov
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 3:43 PM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] OT: Virtual PC 2007 (MS), CITRIX XenServer, CITRIX
HDX...

Hi All,

 

Sorry for off-topic but I expect the subject would be interesting for
many
developers here, and I do expect some of you do use such a configuration
of
computers systems I'm considering here to create.

 

Plan: 

 

I wanted to have:

 

1)      Several virtual PCs (VPCs), which can be kept and loaded from a
common local/Internet store with minimal overheads;

2)      When loaded and started I wanted to access VPCs from real
desktop on
PC they are running as well as via a virtual desktop from other systems
running in my LAN as well as from Internet assuming my running VPCs will
be
seen from there (I will get static IP(s) and my main ISP has a broadband
connection to my home/office, which I'm using here every day );

3)      I also wanted the data from some of my VPCs/physical systems
backed-up automatically (on schedule) not only locally but also
somewhere on
Internet;

4)      When out of home/office for a long period of time, and having my
physical systems shut down I wanted to have (some of) my VPCs moved to
an
Internet VPS hosting to use them from anywhere in this world.

 

As far I currently understand:

 

 (1) -  can be done using CITRIX XenServer
(http://www.citrix.com/English/ps2/products/product.asp?contentID=683148
), 

 (2) - using CITRIX HDX technology
(http://community.citrix.com/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=79463606),

 (3) - using e.g. Amazon S3 Services
(http://aws.amazon.com/s3/#functionality ), and

 (4) - using e.g. Triple8 VPSs (http://www.triple8.net/vps.htm )

 

Question: Does anybody use/plan to use the above technologies in the
near
future? If you do use them what are your experience - I'm especially
interested to hear about real life experience of using VS2005/2008/2010
development for Visual Studio running on an Internet-located  VPS
(Virtual
Private Server), and accessed via Virtual Desktop (CITRIX HDX) from Web
Browser. running on Windows Mobile powered SmartPhone J Well, I'm
kidding
about the latter  "SmartPhone VS development" but I do wanted to know
about
real life experience of using VS development via Virtual Desktop driven
by
CITRIX HDX.

 

Please correct me if I'm wrong and advise what are the better
technologies
in your opinion to apply for and fulfill my plan.

 

Thank you.

 

--

Shamil  

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