[AccessD] Survey - Preferred Email and NewsGroups client

Max Wanadoo max.wanadoo at gmail.com
Fri Feb 5 10:27:05 CST 2010


I am not paranoid at all.

I cannot help it if they are all out to get me....

Max


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: 05 February 2010 16:22
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Survey - Preferred Email and NewsGroups client

Hi Max

Yes, but that would introduce a "Single Point of Failure" if GMail goes
down.

Many variations are possible. One determine factor is how paranoid you are.

/gustav


>>> max.wanadoo at gmail.com 05-02-2010 16:08 >>>
Gustav,

Or you could have an  amalgamation of your ideas.
1. have gmail send copies to another gmail server.
2. set up   another client on the  pc.
3. set the other  client to download from the second  gmail account.

Max


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com 
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock
Sent: 05 February 2010 14:51
To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Survey - Preferred Email and NewsGroups client

Hi A.D.

Yes. Two or more remote storages aren't of much use if your line is down. If
that situation is unacceptable, on-site storage must be established.
You can either run your own mail server - it's not that difficult and
several free options are offered:

 - hMailServer: http://www.hmailserver.com 
 - SmarterMail: http://www.smartertools.com/SmarterMail 
 - Mercury: http://www.pmail.com/overviews/ovw_mercury.htm 

all of which can by themselves pull mail via POP and/or IMAP from a remote
server - or you could use a tool like ImapSize to pull all e-mails via IMAP
to a local directory/file structure:

  http://www.broobles.com/imapsize/index.php 

Further, clients exist that have features for this purpose, some at a (fair)
cost like The Bat:

  http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/index.php 

/gustav


>>> adtp at airtelmail.in 05-02-2010 13:55 >>>
Gustav,

    Would it meet the requirement that all back up is physically stored on
my hard disk, retrievable as needed, even if Google were to shut down all
their servers ? 

    Underlying objective:
    ==============
    Archived messages should be in my absolute physical possession. For
accessing these, there must be no scope for being held hostage to any third
party's resources / performance / status / fate. (Confining our dependence
in this respect to one entity i.e. Microsoft)

Best wishes,
A.D. Tejpal
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gustav Brock 
  To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 14:24
  Subject: Re: [AccessD] Survey - Preferred Email and NewsGroups client


  Hi A.D.

  At most mail hosts - at least at GMail - you can set up the account to
forward each and every mail to another e-mail address to suite your demand
for backup. This could be one at a competing provider.
  At GMail you can create accounts as you go - every time your archived mail
volume exceeds 7 GB, open another account and redirect the forwarded mail to
this.

  For the free web accessed mail services, don't expect everything; there is
a reason why they are free.

  /gustav


  >>> adtp at airtelmail.in 05-02-2010 09:39 >>>
  William,

      Thanks for the kind confirmation. One factor that militates against
adoption of third party mail client is that if the owning company happens to
discontinue the product or fails to bring out matching upgrade suiting
future versions of Windows, it can pose a problem in retrieving archived
messages stored under the said application.

      Apparently WLM is missing one of the nice features of OE, namely -
hot key navigation. For example, in case of OE, pressing any key in the Copy
or Move dialog box (or directly in the folders pane) takes you to the next
folder where the name starts with the given character.

  Best wishes,
  A.D. Tejpal


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