[AccessD] Add-In Express 2009 for MS Office and .NET

...yeehah!!!!!! :)))))))

...need a beta tester? ...I'm available :)

William

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From: "Shamil Salakhetdinov" <shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru>
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 7:16 AM
To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'" 
<accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Add-In Express 2009 for MS Office and .NET

> William,
>
> Yes, no one can be sure about anything these days - that's a living
> "context" all around the world AFAICS...
>
> OK, I will make EatBloat.NET prototype within Access Developer Assistant
> Add-in with all credits to Max - OK Max?
>
> Thank you.
>
> --
> Shamil
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William Hindman
> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 10:23 AM
> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Add-In Express 2009 for MS Office and .NET
>
> Shamil
>
> ...no one can be sure about anything here these days ...but that gets into
> politics and economics and anything
> more I'd say would be sure to piss someone off on the list, eh :)
>
> ...I think you've probably identified the core of EatBloat ...after the
> import, I'd think you'd want to add a compact.
>
> William
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Shamil Salakhetdinov" <shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 1:50 AM
> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Add-In Express 2009 for MS Office and .NET
>
>> William --
>>
>> But you suppose that "lazy season" will last just a few months there?
>> How one can be sure about that?
>>
>> OK, AFAIS "Eat Bloat" uses undocumented features .SaveTex/.LoadText
>> therefore it shouldn't touch/bother about tables and relationships but
>> just:
>>
>> - make backup copy of current db;
>> - save queries, forms, reports, macros, modules as text files;
>> - delete queries, forms, reports, macros, modules;
>> - compact db;
>> - load queries, forms, reports, macros, modules from saved text files.
>>
>> (if db to fix has AutoExec macro or start-up form then they should be
>> disabled manually before "Eat Bloat" run)
>>
>> Correct Max?
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> --
>> Shamil
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William 
>> Hindman
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 1:16 AM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Add-In Express 2009 for MS Office and .NET
>>
>> Shamil
>>
>> ...not idle ...just a significant cutback in the work available ...we've
>> hit
>>
>> over 18% unemployed here in Palm Beach including those who have just
>> stopped
>>
>> looking or ran out of unemployment benefits ...my largest client asked 
>> for
>
>> a
>>
>> 50% cut in project hours, just stringing things out ...other clients have
>> done the same or stopped work altogether ...so there is plenty of slack
>> time
>>
>> available right now, time for learning new things, cleaning up old ones 
>> :)
>>
>> ...Eat Bloat exports everything to text files, then re-imports them, used
>> to
>>
>> work like a charm but there is a bug in the latest version that errs out
>> ...Max would have to give you the inner workings.
>>
>> William
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Shamil Salakhetdinov" <shamil at smsconsulting.spb.ru>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 2:33 PM
>> To: "'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'"
>> <accessd at databaseadvisors.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Add-In Express 2009 for MS Office and .NET
>>
>>> William and Max --
>>>
>>> What "Eat Bloat' actually does? (sorry I didn't use it)
>>>
>>> - Creates new mdb...
>>> - and exports all MS Access objects (tables, queries, forms, reports,
>>> macros, modules) into this new mdb?
>>>
>>> What about relationships?
>>> What about import/export specs?
>>> What about ADPs?
>>>
>>> <<<
>>> I'm looking for the next step up allowing creating a new mdb from
>>> multiple
>>> preset configs...
>>>>>>
>>> MS Access Applications Manager did something like that - in fact it was
>>> able
>>> to create one solid FE together with BE or one shell FE with as many as
>>> one
>>> wanted to have library FEs (with forms and reports in that libraries) 
>>> and
>>> one/several BEs with linked tables etc. - all built "automagically"
>>> including SageKey InstallShield script with ready to use setup kit in 
>>> the
>>> end - something like that AFAIKR...
>>>
>>> <<<
>>> ...I may
>>> invest in A2010 if the early reviews hold up but A2K7 is no-no for me
>>> ...still A2k3 bound :)
>>>>>>
>>> As I noted Add-In Express does allow to develop version independent
>>> Add-ins
>>> including their setup - there will be no need to keep several code
>>> versions/branches/setups - there should just be custom description of
>>> what
>>> custom add-in features are used for what target MS Access version...
>>>
>>> <<<
>>> ...I'm more than willing to give it a try but as you know I'm no code
>>> guru
>>>>>>
>>> OK
>>>
>>> <<<
>>> ...but the economy here ensures that I'll have some time available for
>>> the
>>> next few months anyway and I have Visual Studio Pro 8 to work with
>>>>>>
>>> Do you mean current global recession which may force you to stay idle 
>>> for
>>> the next few months?
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Shamil
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of William
>>> Hindman
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 10:00 PM
>>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] Add-In Express 2009 for MS Office and .NET
>>>
>>> Shamil
>>>
>>> ...I think Max has already passed Eat Bloat off to AccessD ...iirc JC 
>>> was
>>> going to put it into a class structure as time allowed ...bloat is
>>> certainly
>>>
>>> a continuing problem at least through A2K3 ...Eat Bloat used to do
>>> wonders
>>> for me in fixing transient problems as well as bloat but the latest
>>> version
>>> just errors out for me ...been waiting for JC to get a revised version
>>> out
>>> ...your App Mgr certainly sounds like a most worthwhile replacement.
>>>
>>> ...as to properties I'm referring to those we set when we start a new 
>>> mdb
>>> design ...jc has an addin C2DbProperties that does a number of them but
>>> I'm
>>> looking for the next step up allowing creating a new mdb from multiple
>>> preset configs ...I use different settings for an mdb in design than I 
>>> do
>>> one ready to be compiled into an mde.
>>>
>>> ...I hope you can work something out with the vendor but from his site 
>>> it
>>> doesn't look like he'd be partial to the idea ...that doesn't mean you
>>> couldn't share the workload of course, just not sure the codeplex 
>>> license
>>> would work in this case.
>>>
>>> ...I'm more than willing to give it a try but as you know I'm no code
>>> guru
>>> ...but the economy here ensures that I'll have some time available for
>>> the
>>> next few months anyway and I have Visual Studio Pro 8 to work with ...I
>>> may
>>> invest in A2010 if the early reviews hold up but A2K7 is no-no for me
>>> ...still A2k3 bound :)
>>>
>>> William
>>>
>>> <<< snip >>>
>>>
>
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