Drew Wutka
DWUTKA at Marlow.com
Thu Jan 21 23:46:31 CST 2010
Preach on Brother John! ;) VMWare and VPC aren't like the great bound/unbound debate. There are advantages to both. I started with VPC 2004, and that was ok. It brought my 1 ghz pIII to it's knees trying to run a Windows XP box. Now on my laptop, 2.2 ghz duo core, with 3 gigs of RAM, I can run several machines (I've run three 2003 servers and a client XP machine at the same time) and the performance wasn't bad at all. Virtual Server let's you run each machine in it's own thread. And the two apps are both completely free (though I think you have to pay for the absolute latest Virtual Server) and interchangeable. VMWare performs better, (even now, from what I've read about 6 months ago) and it is simple to run any OS, even non-MS stuff. I have a ubuntu Linux VM in Virtual PC, but you kind of have to jump through some hoops to do it. VPC will get closer and closer to VMWare, as far as performance, but it will always be slanted towards running Windows based OSes. I'd probably play around with VMWare a bit when I have some time (LOL, who has that?), but I took the time to create a base hard drive with every MS OS from DOS 6.22 to Windows 7. (Though I've tossed the Vista and 7 one, cause they are pretty big, and unnecessary right now, and I never touched ME, couldn't pay me enough to have the .iso image of that install on any of my machines! LOL) Couldn't agree more on RAID drives. It's one of my favorite preach points when people ask me about machines. With drives getting so cheap, and SATA Raid Controllers becoming more standard on motherboards, it's almost a crime not to be using a RAID. (Though I use RAID 0+1's more then anything else.) As for the ISO images, try this: http://www.magiciso.com/tutorials/miso-magicdisc-overview.htm Get the 106 version, behind the Windows 7 link (and one of the others I think). I can install that version on anything (just put it on a netbook running XP pro the other day, and it runs fine in Windows 7 64 bit and Vista 32/64 bit). In vista and 7, you'll be prompted about an unsigned driver, but it works great. You can add as many Virtual CD/DVD-Roms as you want. (one of my favorite games is FreeSpace, and old 'space' game I got with my first PIII. It needs the DVD to play, so I usually have a drive specifically housing that iso image all the time on my laptop. Fun to play when I'm bored). It runs in your system tray, and is very user friendly. It'll even make ISO images for you (and other formats if you want). I stick with ISO. Did you know another feature of Windows 7 is that it will natively burn an ISO image to a blank CD/DVD with no other software? With the 'working' VM machine on standby, I use it a lot, cause Access 97 is a little finicky on a windows 7 box, if you use another version of Access, Access 97 tries to right to the registry and fails, so you have to restart it 'As Administrator', which is a pain. I use 97 periodically, still have a lot of working .mdb's still in 97 format. Easiest way is to use my XP box (which has Office 97 and 2003 installed together). But another big reason I keep that, is that when I setup a dev machine, I do a few extra things, which are just time consuming. Like setting up file extension special commands (like when I right click on an MDB, I make it so I have the option of what version of Access I open it with, and if I open it with a secured mdw.). Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 9:53 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: Windows 7 .. I'm VERY impressed Drew, Amen Amen Amen! For all of my servers I use a raid 6 array running on raid co-processor cards. On those arrays I store all of my data. I have upgraded, moved and so forth all of my data many times and never lost a thing. A raid array is NOT a backup, but it is as close to bullet proof as you can get in terms of preventing HARDWARE caused data loss. I use VMWare virtual machines. I do so because I needed to access fast disks natively from the VM and at the time I started doing this Virtual PC wouldn't allow me to do the things I needed. But virtual machines are so recommended. The ability to simply copy the file off to another machine and be back up and running is indescribably useful. Likewise I capture all of my downloads. I have gotten lazy about things like Firefox and so forth where I can get it off the internet, though I even carry around a 4 gig memory stick with those and other programs. And ditto to the ISO images. They can be a PITA to get mounted and visible sometimes but I have always managed. I must say I have not gone so far as a virtual PC running my dev machine on my laptop running on "bare metal". It is a useful concept but I found it just a tad too slow. I have a fairly powerful laptop but it just didn't quite work fast enough. I also had issues with VMS client and Hamachi colliding. It took a LONG time to figure that out. Some day I will do the VM on plain jane OS but I'm not there yet. John W. 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