[AccessD] Deploying Runtime

Max Wanadoo max.wanadoo at gmail.com
Sat Jan 23 12:28:59 CST 2010


Andy,

Have a look at these:

http://www.advancedinstaller.com/

http://www.jrsoftware.org/isinfo.php (inno)


Google on:

free installer

inno installer

Haven't used them myself,  but there are TONS of free installers around.

I signed up for inno YEARS AGO just  in case I needed an  installer  and I
keep getting updates and  eUpdate news so that is WELL supported.  Cant
recall the URL  though.

Max



-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: 23 January 2010 17:32
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Deploying Runtime

Ok, so I need Sagekey to create the script (wow, lot of money for a script!)
and then Wise to do the actual install. Clear. And you say Sagekey provides
the Access runtime files too? So, I develop my Access system as normal and
need nothing other then Sagekey and Wise to deploy it. Is that right? Then
my 'only' problem is that I don't have a version of Access later than 2002!
Damn.

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: 23 January 2010 16:55
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Deploying Runtime


Andy:

Yeah you still need Wise.  I believe Sagekey supplies you with all the
Access files you need.  Mostly those run-time files are stuff in Access
already.  The runtime, IIUC, is a subset of Access - just the stuff you need
to run an mdb or mde without the files you need to do development - no
design view of anything.

The script you buy from Sagekey is a Wise script and like a template - very
well commented so you can easily modify it for your own purposes.  I was
able to do it with a bit of help from their tech support - which is
excellent, BTW - and didn't really have to learn the Wise scripting
language. 

I have the script for 2003.  I think they'll still sell it.  

Doug Murphy also is a user of the Wise/Sagekey combo and he can answer
questions probably better than I.

Rocky


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 8:13 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Deploying Runtime

Thanks Rocky
I've been to the Sagekey site
http://www.sagekey.com/installation_access.aspx . The Lite and Pro versions
appear to be complete installers which bypass the need for Access Deployment
but presumably you still nned the Access Runtime. But you still need Wise,
right? Sorry to be dense but can you briefly take me through what I need and
the steps involved in building an installation? 


I also note they refer to a single license for Access 2007. What if I'm
using an earlier version of Access? Any idea?

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: 23 January 2010 14:59
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Deploying Runtime


I have used the Wise/Sagekey combo for years with no problems.  For that
many installs it's probably well worth the bucks.

Rocky
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 6:42 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Deploying Runtime

Hi all
I know this has been kicked around before so apoogies for raising it again
but time's moved on so the current situation may have too. Anyway, a quick
look at the the archives didn't illuminate me.

I'm proposing to take an app written in Excel and rewrite it in Access.
Problem is that it will need distributing to 200+ machines Europe-wide, most
of which won't have Access. Now I haven't used Access Runtime for about 15
years so am well out-of-date and could do with an update. I guess my
questions are;

1. Any chance of me getting hold of whatever's needed (Access Developer
Edition is it?) to create runtimes for older versions (Access 2000, 2002)?

Have in fact just looked and there's a copy of "Microsoft Office 2000
Developer Tools for PC" on ebay in UK. Is that what I need? There's a copy
of "Microsoft Office XP 2002 Developer 269-04560 COMMERCIAL" too. Is that
the 2002 equivalent? If I buy either/both of these am I getting the right
software?

2.If I get those is that all I need? I've seen a post on a forum which says,
and I quote:
"There can definitely be conflicts when installing ART to machines with full
versions of Access. I use the 2002 ART and deploy those apps with the Wise
Installer and use Sagekey scripts (www.sagekey.com) ... this script is
designed specificially to install my application with the ART on a machine
with an exisiting version of Access so that they can both co-exist. They're
not cheap - the scripts are around $400 USD, the Wise installer runs between
$400-$1000 USD - but they make your life a lot easier. Since switching to
these scripts and the Wise Installer, my support calls for installation have
been reduced to almost nothing; "

Do others back up this experience?

Id appreciate you guys' wise advice as always.

Andy



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