[AccessD] Deploying Runtime

Andy Lacey andy at minstersystems.co.uk
Sat Jan 23 13:12:50 CST 2010


Aah, yes it does. Sounds like the answer.

Thanks everyone as ever.

andy

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: 23 January 2010 18:30
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: Re: [AccessD] Deploying Runtime


Andy,
 The "Access 2007 Deployment Wizard" helps you create an MSI Installation
.exe that installs the Runtimes for Access 2007, which you can run Access an
2002-2003 (and 2007) databases in.

Does that help?

WBR
Robert


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 12:29 PM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] Deploying Runtime

Hi Robert, thanks for the response

Are you saying then that the "Access 2007 Deployment Wizard" version runs
only with versions since 2003? I don't have 2003, in fact nothing since
2002. Where's that leave me?

I also don't like the sound of "small issues with the wizard" though. This
needs to just work.

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: 23 January 2010 16:42
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] Deploying Runtime


Andy,
 Can you Dev. the program In Access 2003? If so, You can use SageKey's new
product called the "Access 2007 Deployment Wizard" and then get the free
Access 2007 Runtime engine.  That way, it's only the cost of the SageKey
program, as no other programs are required.


PS: They are still working out some small issues with the Wizard, but I
believe it's your best solution.

WBR
Robert


-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 11:13 AM
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] Deploying Runtime

Thanks Rocky
I've been to the Sagekey site
http://www.sagekey.com/installation_access.aspx . The Lite and Pro versions
appear to be complete installers which bypass the need for Access Deployment
but presumably you still nned the Access Runtime. But you still need Wise,
right? Sorry to be dense but can you briefly take me through what I need and
the steps involved in building an installation? 


I also note they refer to a single license for Access 2007. What if I'm
using an earlier version of Access? Any idea?

Andy

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Rocky Smolin
Sent: 23 January 2010 14:59
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Subject: Re: [AccessD] Deploying Runtime


I have used the Wise/Sagekey combo for years with no problems.  For that
many installs it's probably well worth the bucks.

Rocky
 

-----Original Message-----
From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
[mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Andy Lacey
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 6:42 AM
To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving'
Subject: [AccessD] Deploying Runtime

Hi all
I know this has been kicked around before so apoogies for raising it again
but time's moved on so the current situation may have too. Anyway, a quick
look at the the archives didn't illuminate me.

I'm proposing to take an app written in Excel and rewrite it in Access.
Problem is that it will need distributing to 200+ machines Europe-wide, most
of which won't have Access. Now I haven't used Access Runtime for about 15
years so am well out-of-date and could do with an update. I guess my
questions are;

1. Any chance of me getting hold of whatever's needed (Access Developer
Edition is it?) to create runtimes for older versions (Access 2000, 2002)?

Have in fact just looked and there's a copy of "Microsoft Office 2000
Developer Tools for PC" on ebay in UK. Is that what I need? There's a copy
of "Microsoft Office XP 2002 Developer 269-04560 COMMERCIAL" too. Is that
the 2002 equivalent? If I buy either/both of these am I getting the right
software?

2.If I get those is that all I need? I've seen a post on a forum which says,
and I quote:
"There can definitely be conflicts when installing ART to machines with full
versions of Access. I use the 2002 ART and deploy those apps with the Wise
Installer and use Sagekey scripts (www.sagekey.com) ... this script is
designed specificially to install my application with the ART on a machine
with an exisiting version of Access so that they can both co-exist. They're
not cheap - the scripts are around $400 USD, the Wise installer runs between
$400-$1000 USD - but they make your life a lot easier. Since switching to
these scripts and the Wise Installer, my support calls for installation have
been reduced to almost nothing; "

Do others back up this experience?

Id appreciate you guys' wise advice as always.

Andy



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