[AccessD] SPAM-LOW: Re: Access 2007 accde User Security

Robert robert at servicexp.com
Tue Jan 26 15:13:39 CST 2010


Got it.....

 HOLY COW John... It's going to take me a month just to understand what in
the world is going on in there... Your use of classes as objects "out
classes" my understanding. It's on a whole different level, like several
different levels, then where I'm at....

Damn....

WBR
Robert




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John W. Colby
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Robert wrote:
> Obtuse..... lol..
> 
> I would certainly be willing to document it, well at least the parts I
> understand, then I would need your help... :-). 
> 
> I would imagine, the time to document it would be less than the time to
roll
> my own and get it working. I would also be willing to create a small help
> file for it.
> 
> WBR
> Robert
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 8:50 AM
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> 
> If I donate this library to Database Advisors Inc would anyone be willing
to
> form a working group to 
> work on it / document it?  The application works (quite well) and I use it
> in several different 
> databases but it is undocumented.  As William will tell you, when I do
write
> documentation it is ... 
> "obtuse" is the phrase he used.
> 
> John W. Colby
> www.ColbyConsulting.com
> 
> 
> Robert wrote:
>> Sounds like a pretty good game plan. Do you have this as a Demo on your
>> site? I would be very interesting in the table design...
>>
>>
>> Thank You John!
>>
>> WBR
>> Robert
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com
>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
>> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 4:55 PM
>> To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving
>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] SPAM-LOW: Re: Access 2007 accde User Security
>>
>> I use a class system and caches.  I create three tables:
>>
>> usystblLWSUsers
>> usystblLWSGroups
>> usystblLWSUserGroups
>>
>> I create a class for each of these objects, plus a cache that is the
>> supervisor that loads each of 
>> these.
>>
>> I have a module that holds a global function for getting the pointer to
> the
>> supervisor, as well as 
>> functions to initialize and tear down the supervisor.
>>
>> All of this is created out in a library - C2DbLWS.mda which is referenced
> by
>> anything that needs the 
>> security.
>>
>> Essentially your startup code instantiates the supervisor which loads the
>> three tables into classes 
>> and stores them into collections.  Once loaded the supervisor has methods
>> such as 
>> UserInGroup(idUser, IDGrp) as boolean.
>>
>> It was not a trivial undertaking, but once written it pretty much just
>> works.
>>
>> John W. Colby
>> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>
>>
>> Robert wrote:
>>> Can you give / share any pointers? 
>>>
>>> WBR
>>> Robert
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>> [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of jwcolby
>>> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 12:49 AM
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>>> Subject: Re: [AccessD] SPAM-LOW: Access 2007 accde User Security
>>>
>>> I have rolled my own.  I have used it for years.
>>>
>>> John W. Colby
>>> www.ColbyConsulting.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Robert wrote:
>>>> Those who have moved to the newer 2007 db container what are you using
>> for
>>> a
>>>> lightweight user authentication system?  
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone rolled their own?  If memory serves me, I believe John Colby
>>> was
>>>> creating his own several years ago.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> WBR
>>>> Robert
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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