Jim Lawrence
accessd at shaw.ca
Thu Jul 8 21:54:39 CDT 2010
Most of the POS web stuff I work with is all proprietary applications. You would never see any of it unless you work in the particular company... most of it is web based or cytrix based and all connected via VPNs. For example, just check out your Wal-Mart casher... The app on her station can be changed every night and every thing sold or brought back, is calibrated in virtually real time. Sales from all over the world stream in to some central office, in the US. (I can not remember where). This is one of IBM's big contracts but I have been brought in, from time to time, to assist with server installs and district wide roll-outs. There is and always will be a place for desktop apps but their importance, especially among the giants of industry who want centralized control, the desktop is no longer used other than as a platform from which to support their web or web interface apps. That is the way I see everything going but I could be wrong. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Drew Wutka Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 7:21 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: MS WebMatrix for web development I've been building web applications for quite some time. I've seen a lot of change in web stuff. Just got my feet wet with an ASP.Net project. While I partially agree, that web applications will continue to grow, and more and more things will be web interfaces, I just can't see the web as being an all encompassing platform. Let me give you an example of where web interfaces fall flat. I go to the Dell website pretty frequently. I setup about 1 computer a week, on average. So I use the utility on their site that gets the service tag number of the new machine, to download drivers. That 'tool', takes about 20 seconds to install. It then takes about 15 seconds to get the service tag. I have my own VB program that gets the same info through WMI, in a fraction of a second. The web is too open. To give it the power a local application has is ludicrous. Just my opinion though. Drew -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lawrence Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 8:26 PM To: 'Access Developers discussion and problem solving' Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: MS WebMatrix for web development We had this discussion before but I am more convinced than ever that most of our applications will be moving to browser based applications... Google knows it, FaceBook knows it and Microsoft knows it but they are playing catch up as they have so much invested, in the desktop. My client's are no longer just happy to sit at one desk and work on their applications. They want to work at home, in different countries, on different computer OSs. Right now, other than going crazy, I am supporting 8 projects, 3 are desktop apps, one of those three is being migrated to ASP.Net, 3 more are hardware installs (2 are potential web servers) and the latest 2 are Web base apps, one being a POS applications. The numbers speak for themselves. Jim -----Original Message----- From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McLachlan Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 2:23 PM To: Access Developers discussion and problem solving Subject: Re: [AccessD] OT: MS WebMatrix for web development The difference between "Access" and "Access of the web" is that most desktops run Windows and can run Access. Most web servers run some form of *nix and won't run Webmatrix. -- Stuart On 8 Jul 2010 at 6:42, Jim Lawrence wrote: > Hi Gustav: > > At first blush it looks like an excellent little tool. It runs similar to > Adobe Dreamweaver but not as pricey. I hope Microsoft sticks with this > one...if they work it right it could be the MS Access of the web. > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com > [mailto:accessd-bounces at databaseadvisors.com] On Behalf Of Gustav Brock > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 3:41 AM > To: accessd at databaseadvisors.com > Subject: [AccessD] OT: MS WebMatrix for web development > > Hi all > > Believe it or not, WebMatrix has been given a new life: > > http://www.microsoft.com/web/webmatrix/ > > It claims to be the perfect tool to initiate web development if you think > that the more elaborate tools are not for you: > > <quote> > WebMatrix is everything you need to build Web sites using Windows. It > includes IIS Developer Express (a development Web server), ASP.NET (a Web > framework), and SQL Server Compact (an embedded database). It streamlines > Web site development and makes it easy to start Web sites from popular > open-source apps. 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